On Wednesday, July 6, 2016 at 3:54:51 PM UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Wednesday, 6 July 2016 14:03:46 UTC+1, Dave Cornwell wrote:

What you talking about?
It's the SNP that got Cameron in by destroying the Labour party in
Scotland.
Cameron only had his bit of glory because of the Lib Dems first time
round, and the SNP second time round. We have a stupid electoral system.
O and by the way, to keep on topic, now we are going to leave EU, we
have £650 million per week (according to the Leave brigade), some of
which will be handy to give to UKMO to improve their forecasts.

The charlatans that led the Leave brigade and hoodwinked Jo Public are
now nowhere to be seen to lead the country out of the mess. I wonder why?

Len
Wembury
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Spot on as ever Len. I'm afraid there are other nasty things creeping
into some arguments along the lines that education is bad as it leads to
the elitist liberal middle classes. I've generally found they are the
ones doing the most to try and raise standards for the poorer in society
than your average business led UKIP and Tory person. Wasn't it a similar
anti-professional/expert/educated attitude that led to the burning of
books, killing musicians, artists etc by the Khmer Rouge and Maoist China?


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No education is good if the elitist middle class left stop putting their spin on it.

I took my son out for his birthday meal last night and there with his partner and my daughter partner Brexit came up . all of them voted remain as they are white middle class Londoners, but my daughter as a history teacher was very undecided as the EEC and the way its developed was very wrong indeed with decisions being made for the UK and all sovereignty taken away. Britain was a very wealthy member of the EEC and we were needed far more than we needed .
them


I'll keep this short and mention Farage. When Farage vowed to try and end the accepted corrupted un representational nature of the EEC immigration wasn't even on the cards then. Its only become an issue in recent times and then exacerbated by dysfunctional Arab countries with populations devised of two factions of Islam who want to kill each other. So for people to say Farage started all of this because he's a racist (over used word bomb to end all conversation)they are lying as immigration was not such a hot potato when he joined UKIP which initially had been set up by Kilroy-Silk.


Let me ask you though Dave and anyone. The net migration for 2015 was almost half a million people. They don't all work and all will be immediately in receipt of health, housing and education whether they contribute or not. As for probably the best of the bunch of immigrants the Poles . Many of those never paid tax as they worked in the construction industry, granted some worked in care as agency of direct labour where they would then be PAYE but even being in the UK two years and having used the GP or NHS plus housing help and education. Any taxes paid plus NI would nowhere near meet the costs of a health issue on the NHS or education which is I believe around 6 grand a year to educate per child. None of it adds up. My daughter tells me that the photo copying budget at her very prestigious state run but highly sought after school is £18 per month where she has to pay out of her own pocket on many an occasion.



So let me ask you as you obviously want to put your OT side in a newsgroup you left because it was too OT. How many people can we take in the UK and really we all know we men England . half a million per year, so by 2020 it would have been another two million. Do you think that is sustainable without you state pension being greatly reduced to pay for it or higher VAT which by the way the EEC introduced. I await your answer.

Another racist rant.