"Michael Mcneil" wrote in message
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Dina put me on ignore if you find my hreads so painful.

Of course not. It would be criminal to leave someone in such ignorance
without at least attempting to bring some light into their, possibly
self-imposed, darkness.

The Sun

SNIP
In the meantime (and since before the history of man) the sun is
continuously putting out radiation is a very small window. Over 98% of
this window is infra-red spectrum through "visible" heat (light) to
ultra-violet. About 50% of the solar output is the rainbow of visible
radiation.

Not a bad guess for the gods of evolution was it, to place a nuclear
furnace so close to us; and it only puts out safe radiation? Wavelengths
exactly in between x-rays and microwaves. With a margin for error that
is neatly catered for by the earth's natural production of ozone -which
is itself another miracle.

This seems a bit like the twaddle that comes from organisations like
"Answers in Genesis". While it may sound attractive to your obvious
fundamentalist leaning, it is inaccurate. Do you know what skin cancer is
and what the primary cause for it is? That primary cause is, you guessed it,
the sun. That kills your "safe" claim. Now have a look at this page
http://www.lofar.org/science/urd100/Solar_both.html and see what frequency
ranges these people are using to study the sun. As you will see, it is well
below the microwave range. So much for your miracle.

Just another minor point. If evolution is active, it stands to reason that
organisms that can survive in the environment here will survive and prosper.
Further it should come at no suprise that the eye is most sensitive to the
emissions put out by the sun, since that it what is available for it to
"see" with. Nor should it be a suprise that it reacts to those wavelegths
that can provide sufficent chemical activity to be detectable. What would be
a miracle is if we didn't use what nature provides.

Alternatively, if you don't believe in miracles:

Miracles are stuff of every religion, not just Christianity. Which god (or
gods) cause them, if they exist at all, is debatable, so the Bible cannot be
taken as an authorative source for scientific research. There is a multitude
of religious books offering conflicting accounts of how the world was
created and its ultimate fate, each devotee thinking that account is the
"truth".

SNIP

Whether "time indefinite" means forever or not, this term rules out
nuclear fusion or fission (as far as we understand it) and any other
physical / chemical "one way" reaction; just as previously it ruled out
glowing coals.

It may rule out these methods as you understand them, but that is not the
case for others. Given the expected life of the sun using current models, I
think the term "to time indefinate" fits pretty well for a species whose
longest lived human, even including the alleged Methulsa, is the minutest
fraction of the time it has been shining and is expected to shine.

Read this fundamentalism stuff if you wish. However, it has been my
experience that they have a strong disposition to misquote in an attempt to
bend the facts to their theories or to complely disregard what does not suit
their position. If you wish to be taken seriously, I suggest you read the
current research and then argue where it is wrong.

Mark