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Lloyd Parker June 14th 05 12:29 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 
In article ,
"Natsman" wrote:
Never been a particular fan of Piers, however, thank goodness even he can
see the light.
Spin is what it's all about.

Climate Change is cyclical, "Global Warming" is at best exaggeration, and

at
worst invention.


And what makes you more credible than NASA, NOAA, EPA, AGU, IPCC, and the
National Academy of Science? LOL!


And we, the general public, are gullible. (Well, some of us...)

CK


Obviously you mean you.


Lloyd Parker June 14th 05 12:32 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 
In article ,
"CK" wrote:
Just a gut feeling - no evidence to go on at all, really. Just years of
experiencing scientific theories and "facts" being in turn proved,
disproved, turned on their heads and eventually either rubbished or
abandoned, and a cynical notion that those who would have us believe their
version either have an axe to grind or are toadying to some establishment

or
other.


Most scientific theories hold up quite nicely -- quantum mechanics,
relativity, evolution, plate tectonics, black holes, etc. Please tell uis
all these scientific theories that have been overturned recently.


And, of course, it's a personal opinion. Something we're all entitled to

be
it right or wrong.

Hopefully most of us won't be around to say "told you so", either way!


Steve Schulin June 14th 05 01:34 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 
June 10, 2005

News Release

Weather Action Long Range Forecasters say:
NO SUPERHEATWAVES THIS SUMMER
& 'This lousy weekend - We told you so!

There will be NO SUPERHEATWAVES in Britain this summer announced Weather
Action Long range forecasters this morning in a forthright contradiction
of claims from other quarters publicised last month. "There will be
hotspells - and we know when - but none of them will be long enough to
be record-breakers. Nowhere will reach 101 degF" said Piers Corbyn
astrophysicist of Weather Action. "I am ready to bet with anyone on
this", he said

"The alarmist claims from others publicised last month alongside
government concerns are hype which have no scientific basis. They are
Global Warming Spin which will be used to pressure the G8 summit to
increase taxes and support nuclear power", he said.

"Our forecasts are based on predictable aspects of particle and magnetic
activity from the sun. This summer all the hotspells will be cut short
by solar particle enhancement of frontal activity - just like this
week's warm weather is being replaced by a relatively lousy weekend -
"We predicted this particular weather change some time ago and also
warned that whatever traditional forecasts would say about this weekend
it would turn out to be wetter and cloudier"

Mr Corbyn warned that there will be a 'bonanza' of Global Warming spin
in the build up to the G8 and it will 'all be wild assertions or dire
warnings of doom to come (after the G8 event) which will not be be
confirmed.'. He re-iterated comments he made at recent meetings at the
Royal Society and at the Institute of Physics, namely:

* 'There are no dangers from climate change, the claims of more
dangerous extremes to come are just hype - there have been less storms
in recent years not more - for example.'

* 'The so-called threat of extinctions of Arctic animals is 'total
nonsense'; the arctic was warmer than the Global warmers dire
predictions from 8 thousand years ago to one thousand years ago and they
all survived.'

* 'Particles from the Sun are the key to climate change and world
temperatures, and in the long run temperatures control CO2 - not the
other way around'.

* 'The most drastic cuts in mankind's production of CO2 envisaged would
ruin the world economy but could not lower world temperatures by more
than 0.2 deg C. That is just equivalent to people moving 30 miles North,
like moving London to Northampton. Why bother?! The dire warnings of
2degC rise in World temperatures would make Birmingham as warm as
Plymouth. Is this a problem? It happened in Roman times entirely
naturally; was it a problem then?

Weather Action
Delta House, 175-177 Borough High Street, London SE1 1HR
Tel +44(0)20 7939 9946 Fax +44(0)20 7939 9948
E:

Natsman June 14th 05 01:57 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 
Never been a particular fan of Piers, however, thank goodness even he can
see the light.
Spin is what it's all about.

Climate Change is cyclical, "Global Warming" is at best exaggeration, and at
worst invention.

And we, the general public, are gullible. (Well, some of us...)

CK

"Steve Schulin" wrote in message
...
June 10, 2005

News Release

Weather Action Long Range Forecasters say:
NO SUPERHEATWAVES THIS SUMMER
& 'This lousy weekend - We told you so!

There will be NO SUPERHEATWAVES in Britain this summer announced Weather
Action Long range forecasters this morning in a forthright contradiction
of claims from other quarters publicised last month. "There will be
hotspells - and we know when - but none of them will be long enough to
be record-breakers. Nowhere will reach 101 degF" said Piers Corbyn
astrophysicist of Weather Action. "I am ready to bet with anyone on
this", he said

"The alarmist claims from others publicised last month alongside
government concerns are hype which have no scientific basis. They are
Global Warming Spin which will be used to pressure the G8 summit to
increase taxes and support nuclear power", he said.

"Our forecasts are based on predictable aspects of particle and magnetic
activity from the sun. This summer all the hotspells will be cut short
by solar particle enhancement of frontal activity - just like this
week's warm weather is being replaced by a relatively lousy weekend -
"We predicted this particular weather change some time ago and also
warned that whatever traditional forecasts would say about this weekend
it would turn out to be wetter and cloudier"

Mr Corbyn warned that there will be a 'bonanza' of Global Warming spin
in the build up to the G8 and it will 'all be wild assertions or dire
warnings of doom to come (after the G8 event) which will not be be
confirmed.'. He re-iterated comments he made at recent meetings at the
Royal Society and at the Institute of Physics, namely:

* 'There are no dangers from climate change, the claims of more
dangerous extremes to come are just hype - there have been less storms
in recent years not more - for example.'

* 'The so-called threat of extinctions of Arctic animals is 'total
nonsense'; the arctic was warmer than the Global warmers dire
predictions from 8 thousand years ago to one thousand years ago and they
all survived.'

* 'Particles from the Sun are the key to climate change and world
temperatures, and in the long run temperatures control CO2 - not the
other way around'.

* 'The most drastic cuts in mankind's production of CO2 envisaged would
ruin the world economy but could not lower world temperatures by more
than 0.2 deg C. That is just equivalent to people moving 30 miles North,
like moving London to Northampton. Why bother?! The dire warnings of
2degC rise in World temperatures would make Birmingham as warm as
Plymouth. Is this a problem? It happened in Roman times entirely
naturally; was it a problem then?

Weather Action
Delta House, 175-177 Borough High Street, London SE1 1HR
Tel +44(0)20 7939 9946 Fax +44(0)20 7939 9948
E:




Keith Dancey June 14th 05 02:20 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F high
 
In article , "Natsman" writes:

Never been a particular fan of Piers, however, thank goodness even he can
see the light.


Spin is what it's all about.

Climate Change is cyclical, "Global Warming" is at best exaggeration, and at
worst invention.

And we, the general public, are gullible. (Well, some of us...)



Nooooooooooo.... I don't think so. You're just a bit thick, that's all:-(

Piers Corbyn is a con-man.

"in the long run temperatures control CO2 - not the other way around" And on
Venus? How *did* it get to be so hot?



No Cheers,

keith



---
Iraq: 6.5 thousand million pounds, 80 UK lives, and counting...
100,000+ civilian casualties, largely of coalition bombing...



Rob Overfield June 14th 05 02:34 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 
My analysis: Piers Corbyn = fraudster.

You ask him to put his method under scientific analysis, and see what he
says!
--
Rob Overfield
Hull


"Steve Schulin" wrote in message
...
June 10, 2005

News Release

Weather Action Long Range Forecasters say:
NO SUPERHEATWAVES THIS SUMMER
& 'This lousy weekend - We told you so!

snipped
Weather Action
Delta House, 175-177 Borough High Street, London SE1 1HR
Tel +44(0)20 7939 9946 Fax +44(0)20 7939 9948
E:






CK June 14th 05 02:49 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F high
 
Con man or no (and I don't have any faith in his forecasts, any more than I
do those of the BBC), I just happen, personally, to subscribe to his
thoughts that Global Warming (in the way that we're all meant to believe)
is, all-in-all a complete, unsupported myth.

Thick? Well, maybe - but also able to make up my own mind...

CK
"Keith Dancey" wrote in message
...
In article , "Natsman"
writes:

Never been a particular fan of Piers, however, thank goodness even he can
see the light.


Spin is what it's all about.

Climate Change is cyclical, "Global Warming" is at best exaggeration, and
at
worst invention.

And we, the general public, are gullible. (Well, some of us...)



Nooooooooooo.... I don't think so. You're just a bit thick, that's
all:-(

Piers Corbyn is a con-man.

"in the long run temperatures control CO2 - not the other way around" And
on
Venus? How *did* it get to be so hot?



No Cheers,

keith



---
Iraq: 6.5 thousand million pounds, 80 UK lives, and counting...
100,000+ civilian casualties, largely of coalition bombing...





Nick G June 14th 05 02:52 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F high
 
"in the long run temperatures control CO2 - not the other way around"
And on Venus? How *did* it get to be so hot?


Exactly Keith!

CO2 levels today are ~372 ppm. Up until this anthropogenically enhanced
figure the levels have never been higher than ~305 ppm in the last 425, 000
years, yet the level of 305 ppm caused an earth about 3C warmer than today
(about 325, 000 years ago). The natural levels have been as low as 180 ppm
and this has caused a world gripped in an ice age with an average
temperature around 8 degrees colder than today.

There is a time lag between atmospheric CO2 levels and the resulting
temperature of the earth. With current levels at ~372 ppm and rising brings
the possibility of extreme warming not experienced for nearly half a million
years or more, and we are now on a time-lag pathway of ever increasing
warming due to current CO2 levels being far higher (67 ppm higher) than
anything ever recorded before.

And if it all goes completely pear shape on this earth then where the hell
do we go - Venus?
________________________
Nick G
Exe Valley, Devon
50 m amsl



Rob Overfield June 14th 05 02:57 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 

"Natsman" wrote in message
...
Never been a particular fan of Piers, however, thank goodness even he can
see the light.
Spin is what it's all about.

Climate Change is cyclical, "Global Warming" is at best exaggeration, and

at
worst invention.

And we, the general public, are gullible. (Well, some of us...)

CK


So basically you're saying that the very quick (in geological time) rise in
temperature in purely natural? Other rises of this nature have been over
much longer time spans and therefore the current situation seems unlikely to
be *entirely* natural. Sorry Chris, but I think we all ought to at least
think that the subject may have some small added ingredient caused 'man'.

PS Seeing as how you seem to think GW is an invention, explain to us why you
think so?
--
Rob Overfield
Hull



CK June 14th 05 03:10 PM

Summer forecast for UK: no 101°F highs this year, no superheatwaves, sez Piers Corbyn
 
Just a gut feeling - no evidence to go on at all, really. Just years of
experiencing scientific theories and "facts" being in turn proved,
disproved, turned on their heads and eventually either rubbished or
abandoned, and a cynical notion that those who would have us believe their
version either have an axe to grind or are toadying to some establishment or
other.

And, of course, it's a personal opinion. Something we're all entitled to be
it right or wrong.

Hopefully most of us won't be around to say "told you so", either way!

CK
"Rob Overfield" wrote in message
...

"Natsman" wrote in message
...
Never been a particular fan of Piers, however, thank goodness even he can
see the light.
Spin is what it's all about.

Climate Change is cyclical, "Global Warming" is at best exaggeration, and

at
worst invention.

And we, the general public, are gullible. (Well, some of us...)

CK


So basically you're saying that the very quick (in geological time) rise
in
temperature in purely natural? Other rises of this nature have been over
much longer time spans and therefore the current situation seems unlikely
to
be *entirely* natural. Sorry Chris, but I think we all ought to at least
think that the subject may have some small added ingredient caused 'man'.

PS Seeing as how you seem to think GW is an invention, explain to us why
you
think so?
--
Rob Overfield
Hull






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