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1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly
SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= Beaufort letters (1100-1200Z): cff,cdoff,cff Overcast with fog all morning. Rain and drizzle, moderate at times, petered out around 1000Z with just a few pockets of slight drizzle since. Very poor visibility, varying between 200m and 600m. RH 100%. Fresh to strong SW'ly breeze. Rainfall since 0600Z is 3.4mm Nigel (Niton, Isle of Wight) 101m amsl -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 12:23:25 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote:
1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= I see you're experiencing what we used to call "40 knot fog" :-) -- Freddie Alcaston Shropshire 148m AMSL http://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/ Stats for the month so far: https://www.hosiene.co.uk/weather/st...cs/latest.xlsx |
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Freddie wrote:
On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 12:23:25 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote: 1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= I see you're experiencing what we used to call "40 knot fog" :-) Very early in my career, in the early 1960s at Prestwick Airport, we were the collecting centre for many of the Scottish SYNOPs. On one occasion I took a telephone call from someone at Bracknell who was complaining that Lerwick was reporting fog with a strong wind blowing. He said that wasn't possible. I said that I would pass his comment on to the observer. I duly called the Lerwick observer who replied along the lines of "If that pompous prat wants to come up here and do the f***ing OBS himself he is more than welcome". I remember taking great pleasure in passing on the reply verbtim. Happy days! -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire 303m a.s.l. https://peakdistrictweather.org Twitter: @TideswellWeathr |
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On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 18:39:53 UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote:
Freddie wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 12:23:25 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote: 1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= I see you're experiencing what we used to call "40 knot fog" :-) Very early in my career, in the early 1960s at Prestwick Airport, we were the collecting centre for many of the Scottish SYNOPs. On one occasion I took a telephone call from someone at Bracknell who was complaining that Lerwick was reporting fog with a strong wind blowing. He said that wasn't possible. I said that I would pass his comment on to the observer. I duly called the Lerwick observer who replied along the lines of "If that pompous prat wants to come up here and do the f***ing OBS himself he is more than welcome". I remember taking great pleasure in passing on the reply verbtim. Happy days! I had similar when observing at Brawdy in the 1980s. I was reporting fog with stratus on the deck. I heard thunder (mid-level storm from Ac Cast) so duly reported this. I was asked to change my cloud type to Cumulonimbus. -- Freddie Alcaston Shropshire |
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On 21/12/2020 18:46, Freddie wrote:
On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 18:39:53 UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote: Freddie wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 12:23:25 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote: 1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= I see you're experiencing what we used to call "40 knot fog" :-) Very early in my career, in the early 1960s at Prestwick Airport, we were the collecting centre for many of the Scottish SYNOPs. On one occasion I took a telephone call from someone at Bracknell who was complaining that Lerwick was reporting fog with a strong wind blowing. He said that wasn't possible. I said that I would pass his comment on to the observer. I duly called the Lerwick observer who replied along the lines of "If that pompous prat wants to come up here and do the f***ing OBS himself he is more than welcome". I remember taking great pleasure in passing on the reply verbtim. Happy days! I had similar when observing at Brawdy in the 1980s. I was reporting fog with stratus on the deck. I heard thunder (mid-level storm from Ac Cast) so duly reported this. I was asked to change my cloud type to Cumulonimbus. I haven't yet reported 'gale force fog' here, although I have witnessed such on nearby St.Catherine's Hill at 777 feet amsl, and at The Needles Old Battery (22km NW of Niton) in very moist SW'lies. I have also endured the CB/Ac cas lecture I wish I'd had the nerve to tell people where to go when an 'impossible' combination of weather elements occurred, or a type of weather went against theory. Back in Jan 1982, there were tiny pinpoints of light floating and glittering in the sunshine all around, quite clearly diamond dust and yet the air temp was -8C. I was politely informed that I wouldn't see diamond dust above -30C (which I have since seen twice in southern England in temperatures not far below zero). Luckily, my boss at the time was on shift and also spotted the icy phenomenon. Nigel -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Tuesday, 22 December 2020 at 15:59:52 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote:
On 21/12/2020 18:46, Freddie wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 18:39:53 UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote: Freddie wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 12:23:25 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote: 1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= I see you're experiencing what we used to call "40 knot fog" :-) Very early in my career, in the early 1960s at Prestwick Airport, we were the collecting centre for many of the Scottish SYNOPs. On one occasion I took a telephone call from someone at Bracknell who was complaining that Lerwick was reporting fog with a strong wind blowing. He said that wasn't possible.. I said that I would pass his comment on to the observer. I duly called the Lerwick observer who replied along the lines of "If that pompous prat wants to come up here and do the f***ing OBS himself he is more than welcome". I remember taking great pleasure in passing on the reply verbtim. Happy days! I had similar when observing at Brawdy in the 1980s. I was reporting fog with stratus on the deck. I heard thunder (mid-level storm from Ac Cast) so duly reported this. I was asked to change my cloud type to Cumulonimbus. I haven't yet reported 'gale force fog' here, although I have witnessed such on nearby St.Catherine's Hill at 777 feet amsl, and at The Needles Old Battery (22km NW of Niton) in very moist SW'lies. I have also endured the CB/Ac cas lecture I wish I'd had the nerve to tell people where to go when an 'impossible' combination of weather elements occurred, or a type of weather went against theory. Back in Jan 1982, there were tiny pinpoints of light floating and glittering in the sunshine all around, quite clearly diamond dust and yet the air temp was -8C. I was politely informed that I wouldn't see diamond dust above -30C (which I have since seen twice in southern England in temperatures not far below zero). Luckily, my boss at the time was on shift and also spotted the icy phenomenon. Nigel -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus I used to live at the top of the cliff at Sennen, 1 mile from Lands End, with a view of Scilly (when it was clear!). I experienced a few F8-9 gales with fog during that time. It was a storm board for the door to stop the wind type of location. In fact I've just come back from Sennen where it's currently foggy at the top of the hill, Skybus flights to Scilly from Lands End are on hold, whilst down in the Cove it's VG visibility, with bursts of sunshine. At 14:00 it was quite blue over the sea. The fog forming as the air ascended the cliff as it so often does. A much better day today, just the bit of mizzle, after a thoroughly wet one yesterday. Sennen Cove is very sheltered from the SW so it was near calm today. A NW wind is a very different matter. Graham Penzance |
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On 22/12/2020 15:59, Nigel Paice wrote:
On 21/12/2020 18:46, Freddie wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 18:39:53 UTC, Norman Lynagh wrote: Freddie wrote: On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 12:23:25 UTC, Nigel Paice wrote: 1200Z: 24021KT 0300M Fog 8ST000 11.6/11.6 QFF 1005.4 rising slowly SYNOP: 11003 82421 10116 20116 40054 52002 60031 74465 886// 333 88700 90710 91128= I see you're experiencing what we used to call "40 knot fog" :-) Very early in my career, in the early 1960s at Prestwick Airport, we were the collecting centre for many of the Scottish SYNOPs. On one occasion I took a telephone call from someone at Bracknell who was complaining that Lerwick was reporting fog with a strong wind blowing. He said that wasn't possible. I said that I would pass his comment on to the observer. I duly called the Lerwick observer who replied along the lines of "If that pompous prat wants to come up here and do the f***ing OBS himself he is more than welcome". I remember taking great pleasure in passing on the reply verbtim. Happy days! I had similar when observing at Brawdy in the 1980s. I was reporting fog with stratus on the deck. I heard thunder (mid-level storm from Ac Cast) so duly reported this. I was asked to change my cloud type to Cumulonimbus. I haven't yet reported 'gale force fog' here, although I have witnessed such on nearby St.Catherine's Hill at 777 feet amsl, and at The Needles Old Battery (22km NW of Niton) in very moist SW'lies. I have also endured the CB/Ac cas lecture I wish I'd had the nerve to tell people where to go when an 'impossible' combination of weather elements occurred, or a type of weather went against theory. Back in Jan 1982, there were tiny pinpoints of light floating and glittering in the sunshine all around, quite clearly diamond dust and yet the air temp was -8C.Â* I was politely informed that I wouldn't see diamond dust above -30C (which I have since seen twice in southern England in temperatures not far below zero). Luckily, my boss at the time was on shift and also spotted the icy phenomenon. Nigel My such occurrence was when I reported a violent shower (50mm per hour). I duly sent this in the Beaufort letter part of the Daily Weather Report (DWR). Our copy came back with it being downgraded to a heavy shower. When I asked for it to be corrected they said we don't get violent showers in the UK. I pointed at that at my station (Kew Observatory), we had a number of rain gauges which measured rate of rain. We also had a list of every occasion we had measured over 100mm per hour, numbering over 20, perhaps more (This was the 60s). I think this one was measured on a Jardi rain rate gauge (6 foot across) and the chart went up to 200mm ph. And we could test it as well. They then said they had no facility for printing pR2! Oh well! |
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