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Some prolonged sunshine along the coasts of the far SW this moring, following yesterday afternoon's sunshine, when I posted apicture of the clear blue sky on Weather & Climate https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...te/QSZgP3xAqrw

Cloud developing quickly inland this morning, but mainly to the east of Penzance, so fairly sunny even over the nearby moors at Bosullow (4 miles NW of Penzance)
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

A lovely day to be on the beach
https://www.atlanticcottageholidays....m-sennen-cove/

Far more sun here of late than the forecast has suggested. It's the sunny on windward coast springlike conditions.

Hope the frontal cloud holds off for a few more hours, it may not.

Graham
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On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 11:42:03 AM UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
Some prolonged sunshine along the coasts of the far SW this moring, following yesterday afternoon's sunshine, when I posted apicture of the clear blue sky on Weather & Climate https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...te/QSZgP3xAqrw

Cloud developing quickly inland this morning, but mainly to the east of Penzance, so fairly sunny even over the nearby moors at Bosullow (4 miles NW of Penzance)
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

A lovely day to be on the beach
https://www.atlanticcottageholidays....m-sennen-cove/

Far more sun here of late than the forecast has suggested. It's the sunny on windward coast springlike conditions.

Hope the frontal cloud holds off for a few more hours, it may not.

Graham
Penzance


The sunshine has continued, prolonged on onshore coasts, & not bad even on top of the moors
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

Cloud increasing now though, still it's good to have a couple of days sunnier than forecast.

Graham
Penzance
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On Friday, 22 March 2019 15:55:18 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 11:42:03 AM UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
Some prolonged sunshine along the coasts of the far SW this moring, following yesterday afternoon's sunshine, when I posted apicture of the clear blue sky on Weather & Climate https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...te/QSZgP3xAqrw

Cloud developing quickly inland this morning, but mainly to the east of Penzance, so fairly sunny even over the nearby moors at Bosullow (4 miles NW of Penzance)
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png




A lovely day to be on the beach
https://www.atlanticcottageholidays....m-sennen-cove/

Far more sun here of late than the forecast has suggested. It's the sunny on windward coast springlike conditions.

Hope the frontal cloud holds off for a few more hours, it may not.

Graham
Penzance


The sunshine has continued, prolonged on onshore coasts, & not bad even on top of the moors
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

Cloud increasing now though, still it's good to have a couple of days sunnier than forecast.

Graham
Penzance


No sun here at all - 8 oktas very uniform stratus all day and a max of only 8.9°C. Terrible waste of a big High.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 557 ft, 170 m.

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On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 9:49:04 PM UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Friday, 22 March 2019 15:55:18 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 11:42:03 AM UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
Some prolonged sunshine along the coasts of the far SW this moring, following yesterday afternoon's sunshine, when I posted apicture of the clear blue sky on Weather & Climate https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...te/QSZgP3xAqrw

Cloud developing quickly inland this morning, but mainly to the east of Penzance, so fairly sunny even over the nearby moors at Bosullow (4 miles NW of Penzance)
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png




A lovely day to be on the beach
https://www.atlanticcottageholidays....m-sennen-cove/

Far more sun here of late than the forecast has suggested. It's the sunny on windward coast springlike conditions.

Hope the frontal cloud holds off for a few more hours, it may not.

Graham
Penzance


The sunshine has continued, prolonged on onshore coasts, & not bad even on top of the moors
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

Cloud increasing now though, still it's good to have a couple of days sunnier than forecast.

Graham
Penzance


No sun here at all - 8 oktas very uniform stratus all day and a max of only 8.9°C. Terrible waste of a big High.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 557 ft, 170 m.


We were rather lucky, as the satellite imagery showed. Didn't stop the forecast saying the best of any brightness would be in the lee of high ground once again. They do like their cliches. Camborne was the 'official' sunniest place in the SW yesterday with 7.2 hours, it was nearer 9 hours right on the coast.

What was interesting was the distinct sea breeze convergence creating a line of cloud up the Lizard despite the air temperature only being around 13C and the air being fairly stable. That helped keep the coasts sunny, as any cloud over the sea tended to disperse as it reached the descending part of the sea breeze circulation.

The frontal cloud is very thin at present, still some bursts of sunshine with a noticeable F3 NE breeze, no sea breeze circulation today.

Plenty of sunshine for you as the high rebuilds.

Graham
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No sun here at all - 8 oktas very uniform stratus all day and a max of
only 8.9°C. Terrible waste of a big High.


The fact that most of the sunshine hours for the UK locations listed in
the Daily Telegraph are "estimated" values rather than actual readings
really annoys me. They are often so wildly wrong that they must be
derived directly from computer modelling rather than by interpolation or
extrapolation from actual readings at nearby locations. Yesterday was a
case in point, with Farnborough stated to be the sunniest place in the
UK with 6.6 hours. That seemed vanishingly unlikely, and of course it
was an estimated reading. The actual reading for Basingstoke, which can
only be 10-15 miles away, was 0.0.
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that man can never learn anything from history."
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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 9:24:51 AM UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 9:49:04 PM UTC, Tudor Hughes wrote:
On Friday, 22 March 2019 15:55:18 UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 11:42:03 AM UTC, Graham Easterling wrote:
Some prolonged sunshine along the coasts of the far SW this moring, following yesterday afternoon's sunshine, when I posted apicture of the clear blue sky on Weather & Climate https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...te/QSZgP3xAqrw

Cloud developing quickly inland this morning, but mainly to the east of Penzance, so fairly sunny even over the nearby moors at Bosullow (4 miles NW of Penzance)
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png




A lovely day to be on the beach
https://www.atlanticcottageholidays....m-sennen-cove/

Far more sun here of late than the forecast has suggested. It's the sunny on windward coast springlike conditions.

Hope the frontal cloud holds off for a few more hours, it may not.

Graham
Penzance

The sunshine has continued, prolonged on onshore coasts, & not bad even on top of the moors
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

Cloud increasing now though, still it's good to have a couple of days sunnier than forecast.

Graham
Penzance


No sun here at all - 8 oktas very uniform stratus all day and a max of only 8.9°C. Terrible waste of a big High.

Tudor Hughes, Warlingham, NE Surrey, 557 ft, 170 m.


We were rather lucky, as the satellite imagery showed. Didn't stop the forecast saying the best of any brightness would be in the lee of high ground once again. They do like their cliches. Camborne was the 'official' sunniest place in the SW yesterday with 7.2 hours, it was nearer 9 hours right on the coast.

What was interesting was the distinct sea breeze convergence creating a line of cloud up the Lizard despite the air temperature only being around 13C and the air being fairly stable. That helped keep the coasts sunny, as any cloud over the sea tended to disperse as it reached the descending part of the sea breeze circulation.

The frontal cloud is very thin at present, still some bursts of sunshine with a noticeable F3 NE breeze, no sea breeze circulation today.

Plenty of sunshine for you as the high rebuilds.

Graham
Penzance


A hole in the cloud over the far SW again this morning, very pleasant out in the sunshine. The satellite imagery for the last 2 or 3 hours shows it very well. We've obviously done something to please the weather Gods. Some pics of yesterdays glorious sunshine which somehow penetrated the forecast cloud & drizzle for the far SW.
https://www.old-boathouse.com/acatalog/Diary.html

A forecast which still persists.

No low cloud based Cu/Stratus over the moors today, just thin medium / high level frontal cloud which has had limited impact on the sun.
http://www.greatbosullow.net/Graphtext1.png

Graham
Penzance

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On Saturday, March 23, 2019 at 10:46:50 AM UTC, John Hall wrote:
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Tudor Hughes writes
No sun here at all - 8 oktas very uniform stratus all day and a max of
only 8.9°C. Terrible waste of a big High.


The fact that most of the sunshine hours for the UK locations listed in
the Daily Telegraph are "estimated" values rather than actual readings
really annoys me. They are often so wildly wrong that they must be
derived directly from computer modelling rather than by interpolation or
extrapolation from actual readings at nearby locations. Yesterday was a
case in point, with Farnborough stated to be the sunniest place in the
UK with 6.6 hours. That seemed vanishingly unlikely, and of course it
was an estimated reading. The actual reading for Basingstoke, which can
only be 10-15 miles away, was 0.0.
--
John Hall
"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history
that man can never learn anything from history."
George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)


I agree with you (though Camborne is 1 of the few genuine reasons.)

The result of the computer generated stuff to replace actual observations, produces some ridiculous output to my mind. If you take air frosts, an average for a location can be 0.5 for the month, but the actual can never be this. So it's perfectly reasonable for the actual map for a month to show an isofrost (not sure what the real word would be!) of 1 , 5, 10, etc., but not of 0.5 which is what the monthly actual frost maps show.

https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate...aries/anomacts

Graham
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I agree with you (though Camborne is 1 of the few genuine reasons.)


reasons = reports. I can't even blame autocorrect

Graham


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