Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat, I am tending to watch the ITV
Evening News at 6pm (at least it is still full length!). On their
weather forecast tonight, the rather pretty presenter said something
along the lines of "Today some of us will experience 16 hours of daylight."

Huh??? Here in Northampton (coincidently in the middle of England)
sunrise was at 0442, sunset 2129, giving a day length of 16 hours 47
minutes. So who exactly are the "some of us"? As a comparison, figures
for Lerwick in the Shetland Islands (they are part of the UK, aren't
they, and so "some of us") are 0338, 2234, 18 hours 56 minutes.

I know with the footy on at the moment most of the broadcasters think we
should all be English for now, but is it really fair that English time
should be forced on the other 3 nations of this country of ours.

Anyway, what is the exact definition of "daylight hours"?

jim, Northampton

PS. According to Google, dawn in the Shetland Islands was at 0119, dusk
at 0055. That makes the "day" 23 hours 36 minutes long!!!

jim

On Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:53:55 UTC+1, jbm wrote:
Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat, I am tending to watch the ITV
Evening News at 6pm (at least it is still full length!). On their
weather forecast tonight, the rather pretty presenter said something
along the lines of "Today some of us will experience 16 hours of daylight.."

Huh??? Here in Northampton (coincidently in the middle of England)
sunrise was at 0442, sunset 2129, giving a day length of 16 hours 47
minutes. So who exactly are the "some of us"? As a comparison, figures
for Lerwick in the Shetland Islands (they are part of the UK, aren't
they, and so "some of us") are 0338, 2234, 18 hours 56 minutes.

I know with the footy on at the moment most of the broadcasters think we
should all be English for now, but is it really fair that English time
should be forced on the other 3 nations of this country of ours.

Anyway, what is the exact definition of "daylight hours"?

jim, Northampton

I would define daylight hours as sunrise to sunset. Lerwick would have more daylight as it is at a higher latitude. The television presenter was not describing it in detail. I do not think that it was anything against the other nations. BBC Weather listed UK cities with the sunrise and sunset times and I think ITV Weather do. The issue is poor presentation. I do not think the information from google is correct.

Nicholas

in 458379 20180621 235356 jbm wrote:
Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat, I am tending to watch the ITV
Evening News at 6pm (at least it is still full length!). On their
weather forecast tonight, the rather pretty presenter said something
along the lines of "Today some of us will experience 16 hours of daylight."

Huh??? Here in Northampton (coincidently in the middle of England)
sunrise was at 0442, sunset 2129, giving a day length of 16 hours 47
minutes. So who exactly are the "some of us"? As a comparison, figures
for Lerwick in the Shetland Islands (they are part of the UK, aren't
they, and so "some of us") are 0338, 2234, 18 hours 56 minutes.

I know with the footy on at the moment most of the broadcasters think we
should all be English for now, but is it really fair that English time
should be forced on the other 3 nations of this country of ours.

Anyway, what is the exact definition of "daylight hours"?

jim, Northampton

WIWAL (1940s) "lighting up time"* was 30 minutes after sunset to 30 minutes
before sunrise.

* = streets lights on, lights required on vehicles.

Just googled "lighting up time" and Wiki says it's still the same
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighting-up_time
though I haven't heard the term used for a long time.

On 21/06/2018 23:53, jbm wrote:
Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat, I am tending to watch the ITV
Evening News at 6pm (at least it is still full length!). On their
weather forecast tonight, the rather pretty presenter said something
along the lines of "Today some of us will experience 16 hours of daylight."

Huh??? Here in Northampton (coincidently in the middle of England)
sunrise was at 0442, sunset 2129, giving a day length of 16 hours 47
minutes. So who exactly are the "some of us"? As a comparison, figures
for Lerwick in the Shetland Islands (they are part of the UK, aren't
they, and so "some of us") are 0338, 2234, 18 hours 56 minutes.

I know with the footy on at the moment most of the broadcasters think we
should all be English for now, but is it really fair that English time
should be forced on the other 3 nations of this country of ours.

Anyway, what is the exact definition of "daylight hours"?

jim, Northampton


And the longest day does not mean the latest sunset AND earliest
sunrise, sunsets will continue getting later for another 10 days or so.

On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 11:53:55 PM UTC+1, jbm wrote:
Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat, I am tending to watch the ITV
Evening News at 6pm (at least it is still full length!). On their
weather forecast tonight, the rather pretty presenter said something
along the lines of "Today some of us will experience 16 hours of daylight.."

Huh??? Here in Northampton (coincidently in the middle of England)
sunrise was at 0442, sunset 2129, giving a day length of 16 hours 47
minutes. So who exactly are the "some of us"? As a comparison, figures
for Lerwick in the Shetland Islands (they are part of the UK, aren't
they, and so "some of us") are 0338, 2234, 18 hours 56 minutes.

I know with the footy on at the moment most of the broadcasters think we
should all be English for now, but is it really fair that English time
should be forced on the other 3 nations of this country of ours.

Anyway, what is the exact definition of "daylight hours"?

jim, Northampton

From Peter Lea-Cox, Umborne. I believe that the movement forward of the Equation of Time allows the 'earliest' sunrise at our latitude of 50deg. 40min.. to occur on June 16th. and the latest sunset on June 26th. The further north you are, the closer to the Solstice, these dates occur.

On Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:53:55 UTC+1, jbm wrote:
Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat

Failure to follow other woollen clad pandas to Ascot to wave at fathers of paedophiles?

On Thursday, 21 June 2018 23:53:55 UTC+1, jbm wrote:
Summer Solstice today, so I believe.

To try and avoid all the football chat, I am tending to watch the ITV
Evening News at 6pm (at least it is still full length!). On their
weather forecast tonight, the rather pretty presenter said something
along the lines of "Today some of us will experience 16 hours of daylight.."

Huh??? Here in Northampton (coincidently in the middle of England)
sunrise was at 0442, sunset 2129, giving a day length of 16 hours 47
minutes. So who exactly are the "some of us"? As a comparison, figures
for Lerwick in the Shetland Islands (they are part of the UK, aren't
they, and so "some of us") are 0338, 2234, 18 hours 56 minutes.

I know with the footy on at the moment most of the broadcasters think we
should all be English for now, but is it really fair that English time
should be forced on the other 3 nations of this country of ours.

Anyway, what is the exact definition of "daylight hours"?

jim, Northampton

You could hear similar stuff on Radio 4 but there they are so incompetent that the presenter, for want of a better word, made it sound as if only some of us would get the 16 hours daylight just as only some of us would get showers, say, or a sea breeze. Sometimes their sheer daftness baffles me - it's as if they can't even read the right labels on the drawers marked "Assorted Clichés - Use Freely". Who will be the first to come up with "back-to-back thunderstorms"? I've already seen "back-to-back" in The Guardian, of all places. These are End Times.

Tudor Hughes.