......but that run is an extreme cold outlier amongst the ensembles at 06z.
To
take any notice of it would be very unwise.
I agree Norman as far as I concerned totally useless, not sure why they
bother


Graham

On 29/12/2016 16:43, John Hall wrote:


Of course it would be unwise to take much notice. That said, the
ensemble mean is looking quite chilly from about the 6th January
onwards, with some other ensemble members being little warmer than the
operational.

But it's cold *now*...


--

Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 07:15:29 +0000, Vidcapper
wrote:

But it's cold *now*...

Not here it isn't. Currently 11.1°C.

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather

In message , Vidcapper
writes
On 29/12/2016 16:43, John Hall wrote:


Of course it would be unwise to take much notice. That said, the
ensemble mean is looking quite chilly from about the 6th January
onwards, with some other ensemble members being little warmer than the
operational.

But it's cold *now*...



Here in my p[art of Surrey, it's not been what I'd call properly cold.
Yes, quite sharp frosts at night, but (prior to today) the days have
been very pleasant, with lots of sun, light winds and maxima of 5C or
so. Today's been very different, unfortunately, with fog persisting all
day for the first time in a year or two and the temperature only a
couple of degrees above freezing.
--
John Hall
"One can certainly imagine the myriad of uses
for a hand-held iguana maker"
Hobbes (the tiger, not the philosopher!)

On Friday, December 30, 2016 at 4:35:34 PM UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message , Vidcapper
writes
On 29/12/2016 16:43, John Hall wrote:


Of course it would be unwise to take much notice. That said, the
ensemble mean is looking quite chilly from about the 6th January
onwards, with some other ensemble members being little warmer than the
operational.

But it's cold *now*...



Here in my p[art of Surrey, it's not been what I'd call properly cold.
Yes, quite sharp frosts at night, but (prior to today) the days have
been very pleasant, with lots of sun, light winds and maxima of 5C or
so. Today's been very different, unfortunately, with fog persisting all
day for the first time in a year or two and the temperature only a
couple of degrees above freezing.
--
John Hall
"One can certainly imagine the myriad of uses
for a hand-held iguana maker"
Hobbes (the tiger, not the philosopher!)

Here in Penzance, the lowest maximum of the month was 9.7C back on 3rd, only 2 days have failed to reach 10C.

It will be (easily) my 2nd warmest December (after 2015) in my 26 year record.

Another lovely day today. The month in pictures http://www.sennen-cove.com/imdec16.htm

I wonder if the lack of Arctic sea ice has played any part in the persistent northerly track of the Atlantic depressions? The pattern has certainly provided some of the best winter surfing ever. (I just watch - until May arrives)

Graham
Penzance

On 30/12/2016 17:00, Graham Easterling wrote:
Here in Penzance, the lowest maximum of the month was 9.7C back on 3rd, only 2 days have failed to reach 10C.
It will be (easily) my 2nd warmest December (after 2015) in my 26 year record.
Another lovely day today. The month in pictures http://www.sennen-cove.com/imdec16.htm

A bright day here with sunny intervals though it was a foggy start but
that gradually cleared through the morning.

My mean temperature for this month so far is 8.3C. That does make it the
2nd warmest December in my 11 year record though a few months have come
close(ish).

The recent plethora of cold nights has dragged the mean temperature down
a little from its dizzy heights earlier in the month. The mean maximum
temperature currently at 11.2C.

Only 16.5 mm of rain - going to be my driest December by quite a margin.

Sunshine levels have picked up markedly during the last 7 days meaning
this month has been saved from being a very dull one but it will still
be cloudier than normal.

--
Nick Gardner
Otter Valley, Devon
20 m amsl
http://www.ottervalleyweather.me.uk

On Thursday, 29 December 2016 23:11:16 UTC, Graham wrote:
......but that run is an extreme cold outlier amongst the ensembles at 06z.
To
take any notice of it would be very unwise.
I agree Norman as far as I concerned totally useless, not sure why they
bother


Graham

Too much time to idle away over the Christmas holidays!