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You sceptic you.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/...-days-earlier/

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:04:45 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
You sceptic you.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/...-days-earlier/

Thanks Lawrence!

I asked as many knowledgeable people as I knew who had an interest in sea ice to look at this data and see if I was going mad or just picking up the wrong data, but apart from Alistair no one replied. I sent that link in desperation, and although he never replied personally he published it. A mention on his site can certainly bring a massive increase in the stats for your blogs, but all I want to know is just what's going on!

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:49:50 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:04:45 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
You sceptic you.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/...-days-earlier/

Thanks Lawrence!

I asked as many knowledgeable people as I knew who had an interest in sea ice to look at this data and see if I was going mad or just picking up the wrong data, but apart from Alistair no one replied. I sent that link in desperation, and although he never replied personally he published it. A mention on his site can certainly bring a massive increase in the stats for your blogs, but all I want to know is just what's going on!



I somehow got the feeling that you are not the bragging type, so felt obliged to bring your fame to the groups attention.


By the way Bruce is this that change in DATA reflected on the Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomaly data

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...aly.arctic.png

Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:56:01 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:49:50 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:04:45 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
You sceptic you.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/...-days-earlier/

Thanks Lawrence!

I asked as many knowledgeable people as I knew who had an interest in sea ice to look at this data and see if I was going mad or just picking up the wrong data, but apart from Alistair no one replied. I sent that link in desperation, and although he never replied personally he published it. A mention on his site can certainly bring a massive increase in the stats for your blogs, but all I want to know is just what's going on!



I somehow got the feeling that you are not the bragging type, so felt obliged to bring your fame to the groups attention.


By the way Bruce is this that change in DATA reflected on the Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomaly data

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...aly.arctic.png

Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick

From that graph I would have said the next ice age has just started!

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Isn't the explanation there in black and white on the NSIDC site, ie:

'NSIDC produces the daily extent image and graph using a five-day trailing
mean. Please note, the values provided are the individual daily values, not
the five-day average values that NSIDC displays for its daily extent image
and graph'

All you have to do is to click the 'About the data' link.

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 10:29:04 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:56:01 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:49:50 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:04:45 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
You sceptic you.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/...-days-earlier/

Thanks Lawrence!

I asked as many knowledgeable people as I knew who had an interest in sea ice to look at this data and see if I was going mad or just picking up the wrong data, but apart from Alistair no one replied. I sent that link in desperation, and although he never replied personally he published it. A mention on his site can certainly bring a massive increase in the stats for your blogs, but all I want to know is just what's going on!



I somehow got the feeling that you are not the bragging type, so felt obliged to bring your fame to the groups attention.


By the way Bruce is this that change in DATA reflected on the Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomaly data

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...aly.arctic.png

Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick

From that graph I would have said the next ice age has just started!

So I'm reading the cart correctly its just now if its some artefact. a simple data mistake.

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 10:42:41 UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
Isn't the explanation there in black and white on the NSIDC site, ie:

'NSIDC produces the daily extent image and graph using a five-day trailing
mean. Please note, the values provided are the individual daily values, not
the five-day average values that NSIDC displays for its daily extent image
and graph'

All you have to do is to click the 'About the data' link.



Why do you have to ruin everything.

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On 17/09/2016 10:42, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 10:29:04 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:56:01 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:49:50 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 09:04:45 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
You sceptic you.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/...-days-earlier/

Thanks Lawrence!

I asked as many knowledgeable people as I knew who had an interest in sea ice to look at this data and see if I was going mad or just picking up the wrong data, but apart from Alistair no one replied. I sent that link in desperation, and although he never replied personally he published it. A mention on his site can certainly bring a massive increase in the stats for your blogs, but all I want to know is just what's going on!



I somehow got the feeling that you are not the bragging type, so felt obliged to bring your fame to the groups attention.


By the way Bruce is this that change in DATA reflected on the Northern Hemisphere Sea Ice Anomaly data

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosph...aly.arctic.png

Or have I got hold of the wrong end of the stick

From that graph I would have said the next ice age has just started!

So I'm reading the cart correctly its just now if its some artefact. a simple data mistake.

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It's not a mistake is it. The data is correct. The statement about it
may be a mistake or it hasn't been made clear that they quote the
rolling mean. Either way it would be nice to see a cooling trend for a
change, especially after last December's apology of a winter month!
Dave

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 10:42:41 UTC+1, JohnD wrote:
Isn't the explanation there in black and white on the NSIDC site, ie:

'NSIDC produces the daily extent image and graph using a five-day trailing
mean. Please note, the values provided are the individual daily values, not
the five-day average values that NSIDC displays for its daily extent image
and graph'

All you have to do is to click the 'About the data' link.

Thanks John that explains the difference between the news articles and the raw daily values!

And using a trailing mean rather than a centred mean would explain why it occurred 3 days later. But why use a five day moving average to ascertain when the minimum extent has been reached when you have daily values?

I am fairly certain this change to using a five day moving average has come in quite recently, perhaps since they started using v2 in June.

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On Saturday, 17 September 2016 10:42:58 UTC+1, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Saturday, 17 September 2016 10:29:04 UTC+1, xmetman wrote:


From that graph I would have said the next ice age has just started!

So I'm reading the chart correctly its just now if its some artefact. a simple data mistake.

An anomaly?
How many of those can the University of Illinois Mean?
And how do you thermomalise a million square kms?
One more question:
How many wet sheep do you know that have the answer for this (and b.) why didn't you ask it?

Having said that I have been pondering the question of scale with this chart: Immediately preceding the earthquake or so called superquake in Japan on the 11 march 2011

http://www.woksat.info/etctcasxx/asxx11030918.html we had a three adjacent simultaneous lows in the Norwegian Sea -indicators of volcanic activity as well as of earthquakes obviously.

How did they know that the three eyes was certain data?
Was it an anomaly due to magic computer numbers or did they have a little man bobbing between them just checking?

And did he have an hole in his arse?
Or was it full of ****?