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Lawrence Jenkins January 4th 16 11:41 AM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 

Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of bloody waiting for it. :-(



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif

Alan [Guildford] January 4th 16 11:49 AM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On Monday, 4 January 2016 12:41:12 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of bloody waiting for it. :-(



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


There is now some good consensus a cooler NW regime is coming into place, no doubt good for Will! But even if that chart were to come into fruition it would probably result in sleety rain at best in London. [Apologizes in advance for bad grammar, spelling or misplaced commas]



Richard Dixon[_3_] January 4th 16 01:15 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On Monday, 4 January 2016 12:41:12 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of bloody waiting for it. :-(

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


(Here's a link that won't invalidate the comment like the above link will in 6 hours' time!)

http://expert-images.weatheronline.c...11606_0406.gif

Richard

Alan [Guildford] January 4th 16 01:33 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On Monday, 4 January 2016 14:15:16 UTC, Richard Dixon wrote:
On Monday, 4 January 2016 12:41:12 UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of bloody waiting for it. :-(

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


(Here's a link that won't invalidate the comment like the above link will in 6 hours' time!)

http://expert-images.weatheronline.c...11606_0406.gif

Richard


http://expert-images.weatheronline.c...11606_0406.gif

David Mitchell[_4_] January 4th 16 02:26 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
There is now some good consensus a cooler NW regime is coming into place, no doubt good for Will! But even if that chart were to come into fruition it would probably result in sleety rain at best in London. [Apologizes in advance for bad grammar, spelling or misplaced commas]

Come on Alan, you can do better than that, your apology was in arrears, not advance. I have added some commas for you to cut and paste when you feel you require some. Enjoy. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (May have been a little over-generous).

Alan [Guildford] January 4th 16 03:07 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On Monday, 4 January 2016 15:26:11 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:
There is now some good consensus a cooler NW regime is coming into place, no doubt good for Will! But even if that chart were to come into fruition it would probably result in sleety rain at best in London. [Apologizes in advance for bad grammar, spelling or misplaced commas]

Come on Alan, you can do better than that, your apology was in arrears, not advance. I have added some commas for you to cut and paste when you feel you require some. Enjoy. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (May have been a little over-generous).


David, if you could convert those commas into snow that would make me much happier, and I am sure Lawrence as well.

Eskimo Will January 4th 16 03:25 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 

"Alan [Guildford]" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 4 January 2016 15:26:11 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:
There is now some good consensus a cooler NW regime is coming into place,
no doubt good for Will! But even if that chart were to come into fruition
it would probably result in sleety rain at best in London. [Apologizes in
advance for bad grammar, spelling or misplaced commas]

Come on Alan, you can do better than that, your apology was in arrears,
not advance. I have added some commas for you to cut and paste when you
feel you require some. Enjoy. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, (May have been a
little over-generous).


David, if you could convert those commas into snow that would make me much
happier, and I am sure Lawrence as well.
==========

Here you go
* * * * * * * * * *
:-)

Will
--
" Some sects believe that the world was created 5000 years ago. Another sect
believes that it was created in 1910 "
http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Hayt...antage_Pro.htm
Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl)
---------------------------------------------


John Hall[_2_] January 4th 16 04:03 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
In message ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes

Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of
bloody waiting for it. :-(



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


The 12Z is now up. It's unremarkable at T+288 and I'd guess very
different from the 06Z that you presumably saw.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

Dave Cornwell[_4_] January 4th 16 06:11 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On 04/01/2016 16:25, Eskimo Will wrote:

"Alan [Guildford]" wrote in message
...
On Monday, 4 January 2016 15:26:11 UTC, David Mitchell wrote:
There is now some good consensus a cooler NW regime is coming into
place, no doubt good for Will! But even if that chart were to come
into fruition it would probably result in sleety rain at best in
London. [Apologizes in advance for bad grammar, spelling or misplaced
commas]

Come on Alan, you can do better than that, your apology was in
arrears, not advance. I have added some commas for you to cut and
paste when you feel you require some. Enjoy. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
(May have been a little over-generous).


David, if you could convert those commas into snow that would make me
much happier, and I am sure Lawrence as well.
==========

Here you go
* * * * * * * * * *
:-)

Will

---------------------------------------------------------
Looks like they could be my best bet again this winter!
Dave

Dave Cornwell[_4_] January 4th 16 06:19 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On 04/01/2016 17:03, John Hall wrote:
In message ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes

Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead
of bloody waiting for it. :-(



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


The 12Z is now up. It's unremarkable at T+288 and I'd guess very
different from the 06Z that you presumably saw.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
There has for some time now been a bit of a trend towards a change
around that date. The GFS ensembles now show a majority trend for
something colder around the 14th on as does the latest ECM run. 10 days
is a long time but it could be the first little cold snap of the winter
for us soft southerners.
Dave, S.Essex

Lawrence Jenkins January 4th 16 07:05 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On Monday, 4 January 2016 17:11:47 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes

Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of
bloody waiting for it. :-(



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


The 12Z is now up. It's unremarkable at T+288 and I'd guess very
different from the 06Z that you presumably saw.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones




Here we are John


http://expert-images.weatheronline.c...11606_0406.gif


Richard showed me the sacred place where the most outrageous charts are saved until eternity or the next ice age . Mind you if it is the next ice age , then we will all be hankering for the current dross that we are so ungrateful for at the moment, by then it would be the 'good old days'.

John Hall[_2_] January 4th 16 07:39 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
In message ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes
On Monday, 4 January 2016 17:11:47 UTC, John Hall wrote:
In message ,
Lawrence Jenkins writes

Blimey , oh well, I suppose its best to get disappointed now instead of
bloody waiting for it. :-(



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2881.gif


The 12Z is now up. It's unremarkable at T+288 and I'd guess very
different from the 06Z that you presumably saw.


Here we are John


http://expert-images.weatheronline.c.../en/2016/01/04
/basis06/euro/prec/16011606_0406.gif


Richard showed me the sacred place where the most outrageous charts are
saved until eternity or the next ice age .


Yes, I had a look when Richard posted that link here.

Mind you if it is the next ice age , then we will all be hankering for
the current dross that we are so ungrateful for at the moment, by then
it would be the 'good old days'.


:)

Anyway, though the GFS 12Z operational run may look unremarkable at
T+288, the GFS ensemble and the ECM operational run and ensemble look
much more encouraging for cold-weather lovers from about 8-9 days out.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones

Dave Cornwell[_4_] January 4th 16 09:44 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
There has for some time now been a bit of a trend towards a change
around that date. The GFS ensembles now show a majority trend for
something colder around the 14th on as does the latest ECM run. 10 days
is a long time but it could be the first little cold snap of the winter
for us soft southerners.
Dave, S.Essex
---------------------------------------------------------

Anyway, though the GFS 12Z operational run may look unremarkable at
T+288, the GFS ensemble and the ECM operational run and ensemble look
much more encouraging for cold-weather lovers from about 8-9 days out.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
...... with the added weight of two of us saying it on here ;-)
Dave


Richard Dixon[_3_] January 4th 16 09:59 PM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
On Monday, 4 January 2016 20:41:54 UTC, John Hall wrote:

Richard showed me the sacred place where the most outrageous charts are
saved until eternity or the next ice age .


Yes, I had a look when Richard posted that link here.


I realise everyone has their "go-to" favourites but I do like WeatherOnline and it's "everyone in one place"-ness.

It's not perfect (i.e. they've dropped the UKMO output as it's so unreliable) but there's a lot of interesting diagnostic stuff in there and they continue to improve it. They're even daft enough to include the occasional suggestion from me.

Richard

John Hall[_2_] January 5th 16 10:16 AM

I've just seen another one of those GFS LRF again.
 
In message , Dave Cornwell
writes
There has for some time now been a bit of a trend towards a change
around that date. The GFS ensembles now show a majority trend for
something colder around the 14th on as does the latest ECM run. 10 days
is a long time but it could be the first little cold snap of the
winter for us soft southerners.
Dave, S.Essex
---------------------------------------------------------

Anyway, though the GFS 12Z operational run may look unremarkable at
T+288, the GFS ensemble and the ECM operational run and ensemble look
much more encouraging for cold-weather lovers from about 8-9 days out.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
..... with the added weight of two of us saying it on here ;-)
Dave


Yep. :)

The GFS operational run seems keen to keep the cold snap brief, but some
ensemble members are more keen.
--
John Hall
"Honest criticism is hard to take,
particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones


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