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On 15/08/2015 14:46, Keith (Southend) wrote:
I have Windows 7 and am told I am eligible for the free WIndows 10
upgrade. My question: WIll this be a clean install and wipe everything
else off? Firefox/Thunderbird, Office, and all my little weather diddies?

Thanks

The thing to remember is to ensure that your PC is up to date with all its
patches and that it doesn't have any issues. Many problems have been
caused because the user hoped that upgrading will fix them. Will's advice
about sfc/scannow - do it first.

There is a possibility that the upgrade will fail. However, there is an
alternative - see
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...n-tool-install
if needed. And backup first!


Yep good advice, I forgot I installed several hours worth of updates for 8.1
before upgrading.

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On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:35:38 PM UTC+1, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:52:05 +0100, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote:

Mm, best back up then choose a day when I have all the time in the
world and a bottle of JD ;-)


I found, that despite my best efforts, Windows 10 downloaded and
installed itself and I couldn't stop it without it constantly reminding
me to do it! However, if you don't want to keep it there's an option to
return to your previous OS within thirty days. There were few problems
with already installed software.

If you don't want to download it, this is a good link:-

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how...ndows-7-and-8/

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Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather


This might also be interesting (or confusing even) http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/p...ur-reservation

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick with it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) always carries some risk in my experience. However, at least the revert option is there if things go wrong, so the easy option might be to go with the flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!

Graham
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In message ,
Graham Easterling writes
On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 7:35:38 PM UTC+1, Alan White wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 16:52:05 +0100, "Keith (Southend)"
wrote:

Mm, best back up then choose a day when I have all the time in the
world and a bottle of JD ;-)


I found, that despite my best efforts, Windows 10 downloaded and
installed itself and I couldn't stop it without it constantly reminding
me to do it! However, if you don't want to keep it there's an option to
return to your previous OS within thirty days. There were few problems
with already installed software.

If you don't want to download it, this is a good link:-


http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how...-upgrade-updat
es-in-windows-7-and-8/

--
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.co.uk/weather


This might also be interesting (or confusing even)
http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/p...ade-installing
after-making-your-reservation

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick with
it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) always
carries some risk in my experience. However, at least the revert option
is there if things go wrong, so the easy option might be to go with the
flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!


Updating to Windows 10 is supposed to remain free at least until 29th
July next year, so there's no rush. Hopefully most of the bugs will have
been removed by then (there are bound to be some). Microsoft have said
that 10 will be the last version of Windows; after this there will just
be updates. Windows 7 is supposed to carry on receiving bug fixes until
2020, including the important security-related ones, but there's no
guarantee that updating to 10 will still be free by then.

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire comes
with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be switched
off, apparently, but some can't.
--
John Hall
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particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones
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Do be aware that the default program for opening specific file types may get
reset to the various Microsoft-supplied options. eg HTML pages started
opening in MS Edge by default now rather than Chrome, at least on my Win10
upgraded PC. Not a big deal, but a bit irritating to have to reset
everything manually to my own preferences.

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On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 9:11:09 PM UTC+1, John Hall wrote:
In message ,


Updating to Windows 10 is supposed to remain free at least until 29th
July next year, so there's no rush. Hopefully most of the bugs will have
been removed by then (there are bound to be some). Microsoft have said
that 10 will be the last version of Windows; after this there will just
be updates.
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Yes, I initially thought it strange for Microsoft to commit themselves to a final version of Windows. I suppose it's all part of a now clear policy to try to get everyone onto one version, so they don't have to provide updates to multiple versions, currently 7, 8, 8.1, Vista & XP.

The fact is that after a few years of updates the cumulative difference is likely to be as great as between some previous versions, but at least there will only be 1 'version' to update.

Graham
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In message , John Hall
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There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire comes
with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be switched
off, apparently, but some can't.


For more on this see:

http://www.windowscentral.com/all-yo...acy-windows-10

(You'll see references to Edge. Edge is the new browser that comes with
Windows 10. Of course if you prefer Chrome or Firefox or whatever, you
can carry on using them.)
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particularly from a relative, a friend,
an acquaintance, or a stranger." Franklin P Jones
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:15:50 -0700 (PDT), Graham Easterling
wrote:

My own general view is if you're happy with your current OS stick with it, why take a chance. Upgrading (as opposed to a clean install) always carries some risk in my experience. However, at least the revert option is there if things go wrong, so the easy option might be to go with the flow & revert if the flow gets rocky!


I did revert. There were so many bells and whistles that I would never
use and the absence of Windows Media Player, which I use quite a lot,
just didn't make it worth 'upgrading'. This, coupled with the fact that
I was all set to replace motherboard, memory, CPU and graphics card,
clinched it. One step at a time.

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By Loch Long, twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, Scotland.
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:56:51 +0100
John Hall wrote:

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire
comes with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be
switched off, apparently, but some can't.


Seeing as how I only use MS very occasionally, that won't worry me
much.

I wonder how accurate their targeting will be? If it's like Amazon, the
answer will be "not very". According to the targeted mail I get from
them, they must think I'm a 12-year-old girl who, amongst other things,
owns, drives and maintains a Peugot 205; is a body-builder, and is
interested in male facial grooming products.

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On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 2:46:25 PM UTC+1, Keith (Southend)G wrote:
I have Windows 7 and am told I am eligible for the free WIndows 10
upgrade. My question: WIll this be a clean install and wipe everything
else off? Firefox/Thunderbird, Office, and all my little weather diddies?

Thanks
--
Keith (Southend)
"Weather Home & Abroad"
http://www.southendweather.net
Twitter:@LawnscienceEssx


Buy a mac. No worries with microsoft any more. *))

And the computer boots up immediately.
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"Graham P Davis" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 20:56:51 +0100
John Hall wrote:

There's been concern expressed that Windows 10 sends an awful lot of
info back to Microsoft about what the user is doing, perhaps to allow
adverts to be targeted more precisely (apparently even Solitaire
comes with adverts in Windows 10). Some of this info-sending can be
switched off, apparently, but some can't.


Seeing as how I only use MS very occasionally, that won't worry me
much.

I wonder how accurate their targeting will be? If it's like Amazon, the
answer will be "not very". According to the targeted mail I get from
them, they must think I'm a 12-year-old girl who, amongst other things,
owns, drives and maintains a Peugot 205; is a body-builder, and is
interested in male facial grooming products.


Well knowing what you look like Graham, I would say that some of the latter
would not go amiss! :-)

Will
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