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This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.



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On 30/01/15 11:55, Alastair McDonald wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.



I'm on my break and thought I'd have a wee look at that.
The page took forever to load and when it did, it was blank.
I opted to view source - blank and zero bytes.


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On 30/01/15 11:55, Alastair McDonald wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.



I'm on my break and thought I'd have a wee look at that.
The page took forever to load and when it did, it was blank.
I opted to view source - blank and zero bytes.


Sorry about that. I tried to use a short link which worked for me, but here
is the longer one:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2015-0129-GLOBAL&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS&

In case that does not work here is what it says. OK I should have posted
that in the first place :-(

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Thaw point: Why is Antarctica's sea ice still growing?

In the waters around the warming continent, the icy grip of winter
seems stronger than ever. We explore the mystery of the Southern Ocean sea
ice

The world is set to defrost. All over the planet glaciers are retreating,
while tundra thaws. The ice caps of Greenland and Antarctica are looking
fragile, and the Arctic's once-vast raft of sea ice is shrinking at an
alarming pace. And down south, in the seas around Antarctica, the sea ice...
well... er... seems to be growing.

In the few decades we have had satellites keeping watch, the area of the
Southern Ocean covered by sea ice in winter has grown bigger, hitting record
levels in recent years. The increase is small, but it is surprising - and
something of a mystery. "The Arctic is doing exactly what we would expect,"
says Paul Holland of the British Antarctic Survey. "The Antarctic is not."

To continue reading this article, subscribe to receive access to all of
newscientist.com, including 20 years of archive content.

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Cheers, Alastair.





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On 30/01/15 14:30, Alastair McDonald wrote:
"Min Santon" wrote in message
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On 30/01/15 11:55, Alastair McDonald wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.



I'm on my break and thought I'd have a wee look at that.
The page took forever to load and when it did, it was blank.
I opted to view source - blank and zero bytes.


Sorry about that. I tried to use a short link which worked for me, but here
is the longer one:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400?cmpid=NLC|NSNS|2015-0129-GLOBAL&utm_medium=NLC&utm_source=NSNS&

In case that does not work here is what it says. OK I should have posted
that in the first place :-(

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snippity-snip

Thanks Mr McDonald. The new link worked and I read it there as well as
here (just because I could).
Most interesting as it would seem not to make sense. I don't know enough
about the topic to have an opinion (which is probably true of a lot of
people but they have one anyway).

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On Friday, 30 January 2015 12:13:09 UTC, Alastair wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.




Ah the "science is settled " experts who always seem to be wise after the event.

Can you point me to any AGW scientist or IPCC rail engineer or argument before 2005 where it was predicted that Antarctic ice would increase to record levels as a result of global warming.


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On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 5:02:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 30 January 2015 12:13:09 UTC, Alastair wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.




Ah the "science is settled " experts who always seem to be wise after the event.

Can you point me to any AGW scientist or IPCC rail engineer or argument before 2005 where it was predicted that Antarctic ice would increase to record levels as a result of global warming.


Buy New Scientist, read the science and you'll be wiser.

But you won't; you'll continue to believe what you've always believed, because it suits you better to do that.

Idiot.
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On Friday, 30 January 2015 17:04:28 UTC, Dawlish wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 5:02:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 30 January 2015 12:13:09 UTC, Alastair wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.




Ah the "science is settled " experts who always seem to be wise after the event.

Can you point me to any AGW scientist or IPCC rail engineer or argument before 2005 where it was predicted that Antarctic ice would increase to record levels as a result of global warming.


Buy New Scientist, read the science and you'll be wiser.

But you won't; you'll continue to believe what you've always believed, because it suits you better to do that.

Idiot.


Yes I used to read the New Scientist but stopped when John Cribbens Jupiter Affect was published
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On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 5:02:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 30 January 2015 12:13:09 UTC, Alastair wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.




Ah the "science is settled " experts who always seem to be wise after the event.

Can you point me to any AGW scientist or IPCC rail engineer or argument before 2005 where it was predicted that Antarctic ice would increase to record levels as a result of global warming.


It would be surprising indeed if every local effect of AGW could be accurately predicted. Do we know for example exactly which areas are going to become wetter and which drier over the next 50 years? Well we can always make predictions regarding this but there will inevitably be surprises.

Col

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On Friday, 30 January 2015 18:06:59 UTC, wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 5:02:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 30 January 2015 12:13:09 UTC, Alastair wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.




Ah the "science is settled " experts who always seem to be wise after the event.

Can you point me to any AGW scientist or IPCC rail engineer or argument before 2005 where it was predicted that Antarctic ice would increase to record levels as a result of global warming.


It would be surprising indeed if every local effect of AGW could be accurately predicted. Do we know for example exactly which areas are going to become wetter and which drier over the next 50 years? Well we can always make predictions regarding this but there will inevitably be surprises.

Col


"local effects"? How can you have local effect when all the pubs are closing down. You don't know nuffin .
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On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 7:12:18 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 30 January 2015 18:06:59 UTC, wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 5:02:07 PM UTC, Lawrence Jenkins wrote:
On Friday, 30 January 2015 12:13:09 UTC, Alastair wrote:
This is the introduction to an article that is behind a pay wall, but it
might interest some and encourage them to buy the current issue of New
Scientist.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530060.400

Cheers, Alastair.



Ah the "science is settled " experts who always seem to be wise after the event.

Can you point me to any AGW scientist or IPCC rail engineer or argument before 2005 where it was predicted that Antarctic ice would increase to record levels as a result of global warming.


It would be surprising indeed if every local effect of AGW could be accurately predicted. Do we know for example exactly which areas are going to become wetter and which drier over the next 50 years? Well we can always make predictions regarding this but there will inevitably be surprises.

Col


"local effects"? How can you have local effect when all the pubs are closing down. You don't know nuffin .


Very funny Lawrence but your failure to even attempt to answer my point has been noted.

Col


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