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For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale though!

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For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale
though!


Same here in E. Herts. A little snow last night the majority of which
has evaporated.
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On Dec 1, 10:38*am, Chris Smith wrote:
For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale though!


Moulton Seas End, SE Lincs - spent all day yesterday watching showers
pass to our North, probably only 2-3 miles to our north - the showers
seem to be a little further south today, flurries of snow on and off
here all morning. Still got about 7cm on the ground, biting ENE wind,
but the cabbage cutters in the field opposite are braving it....

Paul
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Chris Smith wrote:
For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale though!

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Up and till yesterday I'd commented on this several times for here as
well, although it is still relevent I feel for the last decade. Pre mid
1990's East Aanglia was a snow hotspot. I've even looked back at my
O'level geography text book. Norwich is traditionally a very snowy spot
although I do believe they have some this time. I think it's because of
the general lack of true Scandinavian HP's that don't have the flow cut
off by small lows over the North Sea. Then it's just luck on the
orientation of the showers but it seems odd that we have had so much
from Colchester South and nothing in Suffolk this spell.
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On 01/12/10 11:55, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Chris Smith wrote:
For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale
though!

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Up and till yesterday I'd commented on this several times for here as
well, although it is still relevent I feel for the last decade. Pre mid
1990's East Aanglia was a snow hotspot. I've even looked back at my
O'level geography text book. Norwich is traditionally a very snowy spot
although I do believe they have some this time. I think it's because of
the general lack of true Scandinavian HP's that don't have the flow cut
off by small lows over the North Sea. Then it's just luck on the
orientation of the showers but it seems odd that we have had so much
from Colchester South and nothing in Suffolk this spell.
Dave


I can't really see why it's happening.

If it was a result of sea fetch, because the flow over the North Sea is
too veered to the East - why was there any snow south of us? Same goes
for some sort of "shadow" effect caused by the way the Dutch coastline
kind of "bulges" into the North Sea.

Some of the radar and satellite animations look like the flow splits as
it approaches the bulge of the Norfolk/Suffolk coastline - the northern
prong heads for The Wash, the southern prong heads into the Thames Estuary.

Which is why I thought it looked like a force field.

Weird.


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For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and
Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it -
but for now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the
sub-zero gale though!


On the whole, I prefer snow and no gale to gale and no snow.
It's much prettier.

Anne
Snowbound in Fochabers, Moray


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On Dec 1, 10:38*am, Chris Smith wrote:
For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.

One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale though!


Could it be something to do with Norfolk being too flat?

Although the air will have picked up moisture from the North Sea,
there are few hills to force the air upwards to create clouds and
precipitation.

The air is very cold and will not rise on its own, it needs a bit of
help to get the moisture to cloud forming levels, and turn the air
over.

It's different in summer when the air is warmer, it will rise on its
own due to thermals.
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On Dec 1, 3:53*pm, Teignmouth wrote:
On Dec 1, 10:38*am, Chris Smith wrote:

For the third day running, the snow avoids most of Norfolk and Suffolk.


One day, I'd like someone to explain the physics behind it - but for
now, I'm just enjoying the sunshine. Shame about the sub-zero gale though!


Could it be something to do with Norfolk being too flat?

Although the air will have picked up moisture from the North Sea,
there are few hills to force the air upwards to create clouds and
precipitation.

The air is very cold and will not rise on its own, it needs a bit of
help to get the moisture to cloud forming levels, and turn the air
over.

It's different in summer when the air is warmer, it will rise on its
own due to thermals.


South Lincolnshire is much flatter than most of Norfolk - no problem
with the clouds letting go of their snow here...

Paul


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