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ENSO update: transition to ENSO neutral conditions under way
The El Nino has been fairly short-lived and has been moderate. See how
long the heat lasts now. With such an extended solar minimum (longest for over a century), if solar really is a driver of our present climate, we should see a rapid decrease in temperatures. The PDO cycle, being negative, should reinforce that and we ought to see global temperatures returning towards the 150-year mean........if no other factor is involved. http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...-fcsts-web.pdf Summary: • A transition from El Niño to ENSO-neutral is underway. • Sea surface temperatures are decreasing across much of the Pacific Ocean and have recently become slightly below-average in portions of the eastern half of the basin. • Based on current observations and dynamical model forecasts, a transition to ENSO-neutral conditions is expected by June 2010, which will continue into the Northern Hemisphere summer 2010. • Although many models predict ENSO-neutral conditions, there is a growing possibility of La Niña developing during the second half of 2010. |
ENSO update: transition to ENSO neutral conditions under way
On 24/05/10 15:47, Dawlish wrote:
The El Nino has been fairly short-lived and has been moderate. See how long the heat lasts now. With such an extended solar minimum (longest for over a century), if solar really is a driver of our present climate, we should see a rapid decrease in temperatures. The PDO cycle, being negative, should reinforce that and we ought to see global temperatures returning towards the 150-year mean........if no other factor is involved. PDO has been positive this year but I suppose it might go negative as La Nina gets going. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com |
ENSO update: transition to ENSO neutral conditions under way
On May 24, 5:16*pm, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 24/05/10 15:47, Dawlish wrote: The El Nino has been fairly short-lived and has been moderate. See how long the heat lasts now. With such an extended solar minimum (longest for over a century), if solar really is a driver of our present climate, we should see a rapid decrease in temperatures. The PDO cycle, being negative, should reinforce that and we ought to see global temperatures returning towards the 150-year mean........if no other factor is involved. PDO has been positive this year but I suppose it might go negative as La Nina gets going. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com |
ENSO update: transition to ENSO neutral conditions under way
On May 24, 5:30*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On May 24, 5:16*pm, Graham P Davis wrote: On 24/05/10 15:47, Dawlish wrote: The El Nino has been fairly short-lived and has been moderate. See how long the heat lasts now. With such an extended solar minimum (longest for over a century), if solar really is a driver of our present climate, we should see a rapid decrease in temperatures. The PDO cycle, being negative, should reinforce that and we ought to see global temperatures returning towards the 150-year mean........if no other factor is involved. PDO has been positive this year but I suppose it might go negative as La Nina gets going. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes I know, but the great PDO powers that be have designated a negative cycle, even though the cycles do appear to have broken down since 1998 and the PDO has been largely positive since August of last year. However, Roy Spencer and some others are convinced this negative cycle is controlling our planet's weather. I'm very sceptical of that being the case, myself. Although the El Nino has been declining, the PDO hasn't shown any recent signs of turning negative, but I agree that it might and the positive PDO may have been due to El Nino. http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/PDO.latest |
ENSO update: transition to ENSO neutral conditions under way
On 24/05/10 17:39, Dawlish wrote:
On May 24, 5:30 pm, Dawlish wrote: On May 24, 5:16 pm, Graham P Davis wrote: On 24/05/10 15:47, Dawlish wrote: The El Nino has been fairly short-lived and has been moderate. See how long the heat lasts now. With such an extended solar minimum (longest for over a century), if solar really is a driver of our present climate, we should see a rapid decrease in temperatures. The PDO cycle, being negative, should reinforce that and we ought to see global temperatures returning towards the 150-year mean........if no other factor is involved. PDO has been positive this year but I suppose it might go negative as La Nina gets going. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes I know, but the great PDO powers that be have designated a negative cycle, even though the cycles do appear to have broken down since 1998 and the PDO has been largely positive since August of last year. However, Roy Spencer and some others are convinced this negative cycle is controlling our planet's weather. I'm very sceptical of that being the case, myself. Although the El Nino has been declining, the PDO hasn't shown any recent signs of turning negative, but I agree that it might and the positive PDO may have been due to El Nino. http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/PDO.latest I've just plotted that data and included an 11-yr mean. If you were of a certain disposition to believe in cycles from too short a period of data, there is quite a strong sign of a fortyfour-year cycle, with maxima in 1939 and 1983. Hmm, 44 = 4x11. Coincidence? Wish my maths were better. Have to do a bit of revision. Any road up, if we were to believe this hokum, we'd have to say that the PDO passed its minimum in 2005 and should peak again in 2227! ;-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com |
ENSO update: transition to ENSO neutral conditions under way
On May 24, 6:18*pm, Graham P Davis wrote:
On 24/05/10 17:39, Dawlish wrote: On May 24, 5:30 pm, Dawlish wrote: On May 24, 5:16 pm, Graham P Davis wrote: On 24/05/10 15:47, Dawlish wrote: The El Nino has been fairly short-lived and has been moderate. See how long the heat lasts now. With such an extended solar minimum (longest for over a century), if solar really is a driver of our present climate, we should see a rapid decrease in temperatures. The PDO cycle, being negative, should reinforce that and we ought to see global temperatures returning towards the 150-year mean........if no other factor is involved. PDO has been positive this year but I suppose it might go negative as La Nina gets going. -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes I know, but the great PDO powers that be have designated a negative cycle, even though the cycles do appear to have broken down since 1998 and the PDO has been largely positive since August of last year. However, Roy Spencer and some others are convinced this negative cycle is controlling our planet's weather. I'm very sceptical of that being the case, myself. Although the El Nino has been declining, the PDO hasn't shown any recent signs of turning negative, but I agree that it might and the positive PDO may have been due to El Nino. http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/PDO.latest I've just plotted that data and included an 11-yr mean. If you were of a certain disposition to believe in cycles from too short a period of data, there is quite a strong sign of a fortyfour-year cycle, with maxima in 1939 and 1983. Hmm, 44 = 4x11. Coincidence? Wish my maths were better. Have to do a bit of revision. Any road up, if we were to believe this hokum, we'd have to say that the PDO passed its minimum in 2005 and should peak again in 2227! *;-) -- Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman AT scarlet HYPHEN jade DOT com- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - *)) "Hokum" may well be a good description! |
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