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Rather long and old hat but bear with me:

A phase at midday or midnight indicates a misty cool spell of clam
weather with any winds coming from the north or east.

This is true, too, for times at 6 o'clock.

The pressure system is stalled with Lows and Highs in almost equal
number surrounding Britain and the overall pressure something like
1016 millibars.

Going back one hour to 11 o'clock (or 5) the weather in Britain tends
to be fine. Cold nights and sunny days with little cloud.

Back another hour and the weather tends to be unsettled with ridges or
troughs (spurs from High or Low pressure areas) intruding.

Those spells are likely to bring volcanic activity earth wide. Which
in turn aught to mean that the pressure in the North Atlantic at least
(I can't really comment on the North Pacific) should be slack. That
is, the Low pressure areas not very low and the Highs not very high.

With lunar phases at around 9 or 3 o'clock there should be a lot of
thunder about Britain. (Not that much as other countries go but for us
any thunderstorm is to be savoured.)

8 and 2 o'clock phases should bring tornadoes to the US Midwest.
(Actually it should bring a series of nation wide storms there
starting in the NW and moving to the east in summer further south in
winter.)

In Britain we tend to get ridges and troughs again but the clouds
betraying the weather are more like the ones associated with derecho
winds in North America; long cylindrical striations usually stretching
from hill to hill often crossing the horizon.

And with the phases at 1 o'clock and at 7 o'clock we get weather from
the Atlantic proper. Driving rain and windy stuff. Lots of it.

OK. That was the easy bit.

Now let's look at the permutations.
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On Jun 11, 8:00*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Rather long and old hat but bear with me:

A phase at midday or midnight indicates a misty cool spell of clam
weather with any winds coming from the north or east.

This is true, too, for times at 6 o'clock.

The pressure system is stalled with Lows and Highs in almost equal
number surrounding Britain and the overall pressure something like
1016 millibars.

Going back one hour to 11 o'clock (or 5) the weather in Britain tends
to be fine. Cold nights and sunny days with little cloud.

Back another hour and the weather tends to be unsettled with ridges or
troughs (spurs from High or Low pressure areas) intruding.

Those spells are likely to bring volcanic activity earth wide. Which
in turn aught to mean that the pressure in the North Atlantic at least
(I can't really comment on the North Pacific) should be slack. That
is, the Low pressure areas not very low and the Highs not very high.

With lunar phases at around 9 or 3 o'clock there should be a lot of
thunder about Britain. (Not that much as other countries go but for us
any thunderstorm is to be savoured.)

8 and 2 o'clock phases should bring tornadoes to the US Midwest.
(Actually it should bring a series of nation wide storms there
starting in the NW and moving to the east in summer further south in
winter.)

In Britain we tend to get ridges and troughs again but the clouds
betraying the weather are more like the ones associated with derecho
winds in North America; long cylindrical striations usually stretching
from hill to hill often crossing the horizon.

And with the phases at 1 o'clock and at 7 o'clock we get weather from
the Atlantic proper. Driving rain and windy stuff. Lots of it.

OK. That was the easy bit.

Now let's look at the permutations.


Have you a scrap of evidence for any of these bizzare links between
lunar phases and the weather on one tiny part of the earth's surface?
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On Jun 11, 8:18*am, Dawlish wrote:

Have you a scrap of evidence for any of these bizzare links between
lunar phases and the weather on one tiny part of the earth's surface?


Yes.

Or no.

As the case may be.

What is a bizzare. Is it a blizzard in mid summer?

Define "a scrap of evidence"
And: "tiny part of the earth's surface". Which "one"?

In unity there is strength.
In your case it will take all weak.

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On Jun 11, 9:35*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jun 11, 8:18*am, Dawlish wrote:



Have you a scrap of evidence for any of these bizzare links between
lunar phases and the weather on one tiny part of the earth's surface?


Yes.

Or no.

As the case may be.

What is a bizzare. Is it a blizzard in mid summer?

Define "a scrap of evidence"
And: "tiny part of the earth's surface". Which "one"?

In unity there is strength.
In your case it will take all weak.


All you have done is make statements which you somehow feel are causal
links.

W: no evidence - no use.



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On Jun 11, 9:49*am, Dawlish wrote:

All you have done is make statements which you somehow feel are causal
links.


Or rather, in your case, links missing.

no evidence - no use.


And unfortunately for us, you won't realise your best course if that
is the case, will you.

Still, never mind, eh? Mustn't grumble. At least you live out
Exitdoorway. Things could be worse. Half a nice day.



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On Jun 11, 9:17*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
On Jun 11, 9:49*am, Dawlish wrote:



All you have done is make statements which you somehow feel are causal
links.


Or rather, in your case, links missing.

no evidence - no use.


And unfortunately for us, you won't realise your best course if that
is the case, will you.

Still, never mind, eh? Mustn't grumble. At least you live out
Exitdoorway. Things could be worse. Half a nice day.


Then produce some outcome evidence W and stop evading the issue.

As I said - and it is completely pertinent, however much you'd like it
to go away; "no evidence - no use". After monitoring of 8 predictions,
an outcome percentage success of 14.2% doesn't look good. I'm awaiting
the "strong" earthquakes around the Isthmus of Panama in this quarter
"spell". You've still got a couple of days left and I imagine your
fingers are now crossed as I'll add this to the monitoring. That kind
of success rate makes all the causal links you've referred to, in the
first post on here, more than questionable. Really it would make
anyone think that they simply don't exist except for you.

The abuse can't be far away.
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On Jun 11, 8:00*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Rather long and old hat but bear with me:

A phase at midday or midnight indicates a misty cool spell of clam
weather with any winds coming from the north or east.


I love clam weather with a scalloped sky, it warms the cockles of my
heart especially when I can flex my mussels with a quick scampi down
to the shops, or use my oyster card for a trip up west. I may even
play chess outside if I can find enough prawns, but being a shellfish
sod I do get very crabby when I lose.
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