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I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

Bob
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Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.
Jim
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I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

Bob



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Comments please.

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On Jan 30, 2:47*pm, "jim beam" sputnick wrote:
Dear Sir
* * * * * *While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.
* * * * * * * * Jim"mittens" wrote in message

...



I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...


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Fair enough. I understand your comment toward foreigners on this site.
I really should inquire more about UK weather than I do.

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

Bob

P.S. Do I notice a hint of snow envy in your text :-)
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mittens wrote:

Fair enough. I understand your comment toward foreigners on this site.
I really should inquire more about UK weather than I do.

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

Bob

P.S. Do I notice a hint of snow envy in your text :-)



Bob you don't need to justify yourself to anyone. If someone doesn't
want to read your posts they don't have to, simple really...

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mittens writes:
Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?


Yes, I think places like Kinloss and Lossiemouth, on the coast of the
Moray Firth and to the north of mountains, occasionally show evidence of
it. However it seems to be more common in north Wales to the north of
Snowdonia.
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On Jan 30, 3:13*pm, John Hall wrote:
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*mittens writes:
Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?


Yes, I think places like Kinloss and Lossiemouth, on the coast of the
Moray Firth and to the north of mountains, occasionally show evidence of
it. However it seems to be more common in north Wales to the north of
Snowdonia.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
* * * * * * attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
* * * * * * a former director of the Bank of England


Thank you, John.

What weather specific weather conditions would cause these fohn winds?
What time year would they occur in Scotland and in Wales? The chinook
winds in western Canada only occur in the winter.

On a separate, yet related note, maybe the person from the Moray Firth
region (I think there is one) from this group could provide insight.

Bob
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mittens writes:
What weather specific weather conditions would cause these fohn winds?
What time year would they occur in Scotland and in Wales? The chinook
winds in western Canada only occur in the winter.


I think they can occur at any time of the year, when a moist airstream
is forced to rise by the mountains and lose some of that moisture as
rain, before being warmed as it descends the lee-slope. But the warming
effect is small by Canadian standards: normally no more than 2-3C,
perhaps 5C at most.
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"mittens" schreef in bericht
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Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

I think a föhn effect in the lee of the Scottish mountains was apparent as
recently as last Monday. On that day - with a strong roughly WSW flow -
the mildest places in the UK were in NE Scotland, e.g. 12.1°C at Kinloss on
the south side of the Moray Firth.

Colin Youngs
Brussels


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On Jan 30, 6:05*pm, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
"mittens" schreef in ...

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

I think a föhn effect in the lee of the Scottish mountains was apparent as
recently as last Monday. * On that day - with a strong roughly WSW flow -
the mildest places in the UK were in NE Scotland, e.g. 12.1°C at Kinloss on
the south side of the Moray Firth.

Colin Youngs
Brussels


I suspected that SW would need to be present for a fohn effect in
Scotland. I went to Wikipedia and I read about the Moray Firth. I
didn't realize that the bay along the NE coast of Scotland is the
Moray Firth. I always thought that a firth was more like an inlet, as
in the Firth of Forth. It makes sense that a fohn effect would happen
here, at a place like Inverness, with a SW wind.

Bob


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