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mittens January 30th 08 06:39 PM

Snow total for the Kingston, ON region
 
I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

Bob

jim beam January 30th 08 06:47 PM

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Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.
Jim
"mittens" wrote in message
...
I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

Bob




Col January 30th 08 06:54 PM

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"jim beam" sputnick wrote in message
...

Comments please.

Don't top post.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl






mittens January 30th 08 07:03 PM

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On Jan 30, 2:47*pm, "jim beam" sputnick wrote:
Dear Sir
* * * * * *While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.
* * * * * * * * Jim"mittens" wrote in message

...



I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...


Bob- Hide quoted text -


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Fair enough. I understand your comment toward foreigners on this site.
I really should inquire more about UK weather than I do.

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

Bob

P.S. Do I notice a hint of snow envy in your text :-)

Gareth Slee January 30th 08 07:04 PM

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"jim beam" sputnick wrote:

Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.
Jim



I enjoy Bob's posts and see no reason why he shouldn't post here.
OK they get more snow there but why that gauls you says more about you
than it does about anything else.

--
Am I the only Gareth Slee?
http://garethslee.blogspot.com/

Gareth Slee January 30th 08 07:06 PM

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mittens wrote:

Fair enough. I understand your comment toward foreigners on this site.
I really should inquire more about UK weather than I do.

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

Bob

P.S. Do I notice a hint of snow envy in your text :-)



Bob you don't need to justify yourself to anyone. If someone doesn't
want to read your posts they don't have to, simple really...

--
Am I the only Gareth Slee?
http://garethslee.blogspot.com/

John Hall January 30th 08 07:10 PM

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In article ,
jim beam writes:
"mittens" wrote in message
...
I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.


Though technically Bob's posts on Canadian conditions are off-topic for
the group, I find them interesting and would regret it if they stopped.
So long as the contents are made clear in the posts' Subject line, so
that those not interested can easily skip them, I don't see that there's
much of a problem.
--
John Hall
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
a former director of the Bank of England

John Hall January 30th 08 07:13 PM

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In article
,
mittens writes:
Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?


Yes, I think places like Kinloss and Lossiemouth, on the coast of the
Moray Firth and to the north of mountains, occasionally show evidence of
it. However it seems to be more common in north Wales to the north of
Snowdonia.
--
John Hall
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
a former director of the Bank of England

Gareth Slee January 30th 08 07:23 PM

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John Hall wrote:

Though technically Bob's posts on Canadian conditions are off-topic for
the group, I find them interesting and would regret it if they stopped.
So long as the contents are made clear in the posts' Subject line, so
that those not interested can easily skip them, I don't see that there's
much of a problem.



I totally agree.
And a subject heading of "Snow total for the Kingston, ON region" could
hardly be confused with being a British related one could it?

--
Am I the only Gareth Slee?
http://garethslee.blogspot.com/

mittens January 30th 08 07:27 PM

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On Jan 30, 3:13*pm, John Hall wrote:
In article
,

*mittens writes:
Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?


Yes, I think places like Kinloss and Lossiemouth, on the coast of the
Moray Firth and to the north of mountains, occasionally show evidence of
it. However it seems to be more common in north Wales to the north of
Snowdonia.
--
John Hall
* * * * * * "Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
* * * * * * attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
* * * * * * a former director of the Bank of England


Thank you, John.

What weather specific weather conditions would cause these fohn winds?
What time year would they occur in Scotland and in Wales? The chinook
winds in western Canada only occur in the winter.

On a separate, yet related note, maybe the person from the Moray Firth
region (I think there is one) from this group could provide insight.

Bob

mittens January 30th 08 07:30 PM

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On Jan 30, 3:23*pm, (Gareth Slee) wrote:
John Hall wrote:
Though technically Bob's posts on Canadian conditions are off-topic for
the group, I find them interesting and would regret it if they stopped.
So long as the contents are made clear in the posts' Subject line, so
that those not interested can easily skip them, I don't see that there's
much of a problem.


I totally agree.
And a subject heading of "Snow total for the Kingston, ON region" could
hardly be confused with being a British related one could it?

--
Am I the only Gareth Slee?http://garethslee.blogspot.com/


Yes, you're right. I make it clear where by posts are from.

On a side note, I notice at the bottom of your postings that you've
written "Am I the only Gareth Slee?" Here in North America, I have yet
to meet anyone with either this first or last name.

Bob

Col January 30th 08 07:35 PM

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"Gareth Slee" wrote in message
.. .
"jim beam" sputnick wrote:

Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk
weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know
we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It
does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have
so
little .Comments please.
Jim



I enjoy Bob's posts and see no reason why he shouldn't post here.
OK they get more snow there but why that gauls you says more about you
than it does about anything else.


So do I.
I think the common interest is the fact that the winter climate can vary
so widely over the northern hemisphere. Us with our balmy climate
so far north (to him) and him with his fridgid one so far south (to us).

Perhaps the best thing for Bob to do would be to put 'OT' in
the header so that anybody who really doesn't want to read it
can easily filter it out.

The weather does not respect international boundaries so I would
be very wary of encouraging a policy where anything other than
discussion of UK weather was frowned upon.
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl




John Hall January 30th 08 07:41 PM

Snow total for the Kingston, ON region
 
In article
,
mittens writes:
What weather specific weather conditions would cause these fohn winds?
What time year would they occur in Scotland and in Wales? The chinook
winds in western Canada only occur in the winter.


I think they can occur at any time of the year, when a moist airstream
is forced to rise by the mountains and lose some of that moisture as
rain, before being warmed as it descends the lee-slope. But the warming
effect is small by Canadian standards: normally no more than 2-3C,
perhaps 5C at most.
--
John Hall
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin"
attributed to Sir Josiah Stamp,
a former director of the Bank of England

RCO January 30th 08 07:42 PM

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Stamping through the snow, at "jim beam" sputnick proclaimed
loudly and it became the following telegram...

Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have so
little .Comments please.
Jim
"mittens" wrote in message
...
I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

Bob




As long as Bob puts it in the subject line, I would have no problems with his
continued posting. Sometime we have to remember that the weather is a global
thing, we get so wrapped up with our own weather we forget other people have
interesting stuff too.

Carry on, Bob.
--
Rob C. Overfield
Hull

Gareth Slee January 30th 08 07:42 PM

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mittens wrote:

On a side note, I notice at the bottom of your postings that you've
written "Am I the only Gareth Slee?" Here in North America, I have yet
to meet anyone with either this first or last name.

Bob



Click on the link Bob and it'll take you to my blog.
I reckon I could be the only person in the world with the name Gareth
Slee.
Well no-one has contacted me to tell me different :-)

--
Am I the only Gareth Slee?
http://garethslee.blogspot.com/

Steve Loft January 30th 08 07:47 PM

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jim beam wrote:

Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk
weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know
we have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It
does gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we
have so little .Comments please.


Jim, the charter for the group says: "This group is essentially for the
discussion of daily weather events, chiefly affecting the UK and adjacent
parts of Europe, both past and predicted."

Note "chiefly" rather than "exclusively".

In reference to this, the FAQ says: "It is worth pointing out that the area
embraced by the phrase 'adjacent parts of Europe' has grown to include
Australasia and North America! As long as it's interesting weather, and
within the context of the rest of the Charter, then that has come to be
accepted as OK!"

I don't think anyone can deny that Bob's weather is "interesting", as indeed
are his posts, in my opinion.
--
Steve Loft
Sanday, Orkney. 5m ASL. http://sanday.org.uk/weather
Free weather station softwa http://sandaysoft.com/

George Booth January 30th 08 08:30 PM

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"jim beam" sputnick wrote in message
...
Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk
weather group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries
site.I know we have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said
for them .It does gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in
winter and we have so little .Comments please.
Jim
"mittens" wrote in message
...
I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.
Including today's snow we've gotten approximately 120cm of snow since
mid-November 2007 (by the end of the day the total may increase to
125cm). The average for the Kingston/Odessa region is 165 to 170cm
annually. A lot of snow melted yesterday with grass showing, but
today's snowsqualls covered up any visible grass again. Thaws cause
the snow depth to fluctuate greatly from deep to shallow to deep...

Bob




Carry on with your Ontario posts on here Bob. I've visited your area in both
summer and winter (even soared over it in a glider-but that's another
story). Impressive weather with summer heat and thunderstorms and winter
cold and snow-experienced them both over there.

As I recall the 'just who can post on here' issue has surfaced before on USW
but can't be bothered to look for it. In the meantime I look forward to your
next wintry report from Ontario. I also appreciate the reports from Athens
and Brussels as well.

Best regards to all on USW wherever they may be

--
George in Epping, West Essex (107m asl)
www.eppingweather.co.uk
www.winter1947.co.uk



George Booth January 30th 08 08:42 PM

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"George Booth" wrote in message
...

"jim beam" sputnick wrote in message
...
Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk
weather group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries
site.I know we have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said
for them .It does gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in
winter and we have so little .Comments please.
Jim
"mittens" wrote in message
...
I have checked my unofficial snow records for this winter season.


Bob




Carry on with your Ontario posts on here Bob. I've visited your area in
both summer and winter (even soared over it in a glider-but that's another
story). Impressive weather with summer heat and thunderstorms and winter
cold and snow-experienced them both over there.

As I recall the 'just who can post on here' issue has surfaced before on
USW but can't be bothered to look for it.


Oh well, here it is
http://tinyurl.com/24wnpl

--
George







Colin Youngs January 30th 08 10:05 PM

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"mittens" schreef in bericht
...

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

I think a föhn effect in the lee of the Scottish mountains was apparent as
recently as last Monday. On that day - with a strong roughly WSW flow -
the mildest places in the UK were in NE Scotland, e.g. 12.1°C at Kinloss on
the south side of the Moray Firth.

Colin Youngs
Brussels



mittens January 30th 08 11:34 PM

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On Jan 30, 6:05*pm, "Colin Youngs" wrote:
"mittens" schreef in ...

Along that line, I am curious about the occurrence fohn winds in
Scotland. Is such a weather phenomenon possible in the mountains up
there?

I think a föhn effect in the lee of the Scottish mountains was apparent as
recently as last Monday. * On that day - with a strong roughly WSW flow -
the mildest places in the UK were in NE Scotland, e.g. 12.1°C at Kinloss on
the south side of the Moray Firth.

Colin Youngs
Brussels


I suspected that SW would need to be present for a fohn effect in
Scotland. I went to Wikipedia and I read about the Moray Firth. I
didn't realize that the bay along the NE coast of Scotland is the
Moray Firth. I always thought that a firth was more like an inlet, as
in the Firth of Forth. It makes sense that a fohn effect would happen
here, at a place like Inverness, with a SW wind.

Bob

Kate Brown[_2_] January 31st 08 09:42 AM

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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, you wrote

"Gareth Slee" wrote in message
. ..
"jim beam" sputnick wrote:

Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk
weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries site.I know
we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for them .It
does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and we have
so
little .Comments please.
Jim



I enjoy Bob's posts and see no reason why he shouldn't post here.
OK they get more snow there but why that gauls you says more about you
than it does about anything else.


So do I.
I think the common interest is the fact that the winter climate can vary
so widely over the northern hemisphere. Us with our balmy climate
so far north (to him) and him with his fridgid one so far south (to us).

Perhaps the best thing for Bob to do would be to put 'OT' in
the header so that anybody who really doesn't want to read it
can easily filter it out.

The weather does not respect international boundaries so I would
be very wary of encouraging a policy where anything other than
discussion of UK weather was frowned upon.


Absolutely. And that goes for Yannis and Colin too. Otherwise we're
confined to the BBC way of looking at it, where the weather mysteriously
stops happening even though the actual map continues....


--
Kate B

London

cupra January 31st 08 09:54 AM

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Kate Brown wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008, you wrote

"Gareth Slee" wrote in message
.. .
"jim beam" sputnick wrote:

Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a
uk weather
group and I feel you should be posting on your own countries
site.I know we
have the Brussels and Greek guy and the same could be said for
them .It does
gaul me a bit when you are constantly talking snow in winter and
we have so
little .Comments please.
Jim


I enjoy Bob's posts and see no reason why he shouldn't post here.
OK they get more snow there but why that gauls you says more about
you than it does about anything else.


So do I.
I think the common interest is the fact that the winter climate can
vary so widely over the northern hemisphere. Us with our balmy
climate so far north (to him) and him with his fridgid one so far south
(to
us). Perhaps the best thing for Bob to do would be to put 'OT' in
the header so that anybody who really doesn't want to read it
can easily filter it out.

The weather does not respect international boundaries so I would
be very wary of encouraging a policy where anything other than
discussion of UK weather was frowned upon.


Absolutely. And that goes for Yannis and Colin too. Otherwise we're
confined to the BBC way of looking at it, where the weather
mysteriously stops happening even though the actual map continues....


lol - nice way of putting it!



Jon O'Rourke January 31st 08 11:38 AM

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"Gareth Slee" wrote in message
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Click on the link Bob and it'll take you to my blog.
I reckon I could be the only person in the world with the name Gareth
Slee.
Well no-one has contacted me to tell me different :-)

--
Am I the only Gareth Slee?
http://garethslee.blogspot.com/


http://www.yournotme.com/ indicates there's another somewhere in the UK.

Jon.






Ian January 31st 08 11:57 AM

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Absolutely. *And that goes for Yannis and Colin too.

Couldn't agree more. Keep posting Bob, I read your posts with interest
(Colin and Yannis too) It adds some variety to the NG, I find your
posts
on your "Normal climate" fascinating, if we had a week of your average
winter climate the UK media would consist of little other news.
Glad to hear your feeling better. BTW if you read this...when do you
normally
get your last winter/spring snowfall??

All the best,

Ian, (Raunds, Northants) 55 miles North of London.*

[email protected] January 31st 08 12:24 PM

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On Jan 30, 7:47*pm, "jim beam" sputnick wrote:
Dear Sir
* * * * * *While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather

[snipped]

Jim I think you're mistaken. I enjoy the "news" from Canada and it's
"on-topic" in as much as it is weather related.

cupra January 31st 08 12:53 PM

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wrote:
On Jan 30, 7:47 pm, "jim beam" sputnick wrote:
Dear Sir
While it is great that you post on this group ,it is a uk weather
[snipped]


Jim I think you're mistaken. I enjoy the "news" from Canada and it's
"on-topic" in as much as it is weather related.


Yeah - agree here too... maybe an 'OT' in the subject so those not
interested can filter it out in much they way some do with [OBS] etc?




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