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Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
Hi Folks,
After carefully comparing rainfall using both the Davis VP and a standard manual gauge it seems, in calm weather, my VP is under-reading by 20%. The tipping mechanism is clean and moving freely. I know the two screws under the tipping buckets need to be turned anti-clockwise in order to lessen the amount of rain required to tip, but can anyone suggest the amount they need to be turned in order to achieve the 20%? -- Chris |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:55:21 +0100, Zak wrote:
After carefully comparing rainfall using both the Davis VP and a standard manual gauge it seems, in calm weather, my VP is under-reading by 20%. The tipping mechanism is clean and moving freely. I know the two screws under the tipping buckets need to be turned anti-clockwise in order to lessen the amount of rain required to tip, but can anyone suggest the amount they need to be turned in order to achieve the 20%? If you're sure that there's no other explanation (eg rain gauge step incorrectly set on console or software, VP and reference gauges not at same heights/locations etc) then you should find a calibration legend embossed on the plastic under each tipping bucket. From memory, turning the screw by one flat makes a 1% difference in calibration. (Direction of turn as shown on the legend.) Obviously both screws need to be adjusted by the same amount. John Dann www.weatherstations.co.uk |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
"John Dann" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:55:21 +0100, Zak wrote: After carefully comparing rainfall using both the Davis VP and a standard manual gauge it seems, in calm weather, my VP is under-reading by 20%. The tipping mechanism is clean and moving freely. I know the two screws under the tipping buckets need to be turned anti-clockwise in order to lessen the amount of rain required to tip, but can anyone suggest the amount they need to be turned in order to achieve the 20%? If you're sure that there's no other explanation (eg rain gauge step incorrectly set on console or software, VP and reference gauges not at same heights/locations etc) then you should find a calibration legend embossed on the plastic under each tipping bucket. From memory, turning the screw by one flat makes a 1% difference in calibration. (Direction of turn as shown on the legend.) Obviously both screws need to be adjusted by the same amount. John Dann www.weatherstations.co.uk The calibration legend on my VP1 shows that a one flat turn makes a 1% difference confirming that John's memory is correct. It seems a general experience that VP gauges under read compared to a standard manual gauge. However the amount will depend on the intensity of the rainfall so there will always be some difference. I think my under recording is less than 10% and without a refernce gauge I am reluctant to adjust the readings. Alan |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
In message , John Dann
writes snip then you should find a calibration legend embossed on the plastic under each tipping bucket. From memory, turning the screw by one flat makes a 1% difference in calibration. (Direction of turn as shown on the legend.) Obviously both screws need to be adjusted by the same amount. Change spectacles, peer at base of unit and, "Ahah!" moment when all becomes clear, and yes, the legend is the 1% per flat / 6% per 360 deg. Thanks folks. -- Chris |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
There's a better and more absolute method to calibrate any tipping-
bucket gauge, as follows. This should be performed annually as the adjustment does drift over time. If you haven't checked your TBR calibration - undertake this simple check, it'll take just a few minutes ... This extracted from Andy Overton's very useful guide to settying up and calibrating AWS, which can be found on the Royal Meteorological Society's website: --- "To calibrate using the method of measured amount introduced to the raingauge, the area of the raingauge collector must first be measured. For a square or rectangular collector multiply the lengths in millimetres of the two sides together; for a circular collector measure the diameter in millimetres, square it, divide it by 4 and multiply the result by . Finally, divide 500 000 by this result to give the amount of rainfall in millimetres which 500 ml of water should register with your raingauge. Next, it is necessary to measure 500 ml of water in a good quality measuring jug, ensuring that the comparison of amount is taken from the bottom of the meniscus of fluid. Measuring jugs are not perfectly accurate but will suffice; if a more accurate measure is available, use it. Pour the water extremely slowly into the raingauge. It cannot be stressed too highly how slow this must be as errors in registering become very significant with high precipitation rates. The flow should be no more than a slight dribble, giving time for the buckets to tip before introducing a fresh trickle. If a syringe is available, use this to better control the flow. This will be time consuming but the large amount of water goes a considerable way towards equalling out the inevitable errors caused by uneven tipping. Once all the water has been run through the raingauge the registered precipitation should be noted and compared with the result to be expected from the calculation above. It is good practice to repeat the exercise to ensure accuracy and then average the results. If an adjustment is necessary this must be done by manually calibrating the raingauge assembly, an offset cannot be applied to the measurements as the error is incremental and the introduction of the total offset for 500 ml of water in all circumstances would make a mockery of lesser readings. The manufacturer's manual should be consulted for details of how to make adjustments. For tipping bucket raingauges this is typically by adjustment of the screws upon which the buckets rest in the empty position. Lowering the screws will require more water in the buckets to make them tip and so compensate for a raingauge which is over-reading. Raising the screws compensates for a raingauge which is under-reading. It is vitally important that the screws are adjusted by equal amounts - it may be helpful to mark the screw heads in some way to assist with equal positioning. If the raingauge is out of calibration by as much a 10% or more do not be surprised if considerable alteration in screw height is needed. Once adjustment has been made it will be necessary to repeat the calibration process to check what amount of water is now registered and make further adjustments as necessary. A correctly adjusted raingauge should be accurate to around 2%." Stephen Burt Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
I notice that in posting it lost the pi symbol ...
"For a square or rectangular collector multiply the lengths in millimetres of the two sides together; for a circular collector measure the diameter in millimetres, square it, divide it by 4 and multiply the result by pi." |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
wrote in message oups.com... There's a better and more absolute method to calibrate any tipping- bucket gauge, as follows. This should be performed annually as the adjustment does drift over time. If you haven't checked your TBR calibration - undertake this simple check, it'll take just a few minutes ... This extracted from Andy Overton's very useful guide to settying up and calibrating AWS, which can be found on the Royal Meteorological Society's website: --- "To calibrate using the method of measured amount introduced to the raingauge, the area of the raingauge collector must first be measured. For a square or rectangular collector multiply the lengths in millimetres of the two sides together; for a circular collector measure the diameter in millimetres, square it, divide it by 4 and multiply the result by . Finally, divide 500 000 by this result to give the amount of rainfall in millimetres which 500 ml of water should register with your raingauge. multiply the result by pi = 3.14159 Will -- |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
Thanks very much Stephen (and Will for pi!). I will have a go at this, as I
reckon I have a 20% underread compared to a manual guage here. Phil |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
Can I add just a small word of caution here. First, I wouldn't
recommend anyone altering the screw settings on their Davis rain gauge unless they're really convinced that it is misreading significantly and have completely ruled out other possible explanations. Often an apparent miscalibration has another explanation, eg the gauge increment is not correctly set on console or software or the reference rainfall readings are not properly comparable, which can be for a variety of reasons.And in practice it's pretty difficult to return the screw heights exactly to their factory settings once altered if you subsequently decide that the error wasn't as great as you initially thought and you didn't keep an accurate record of any changes that were made. In general the VP2 gauges do record reasonably accurately though like all less costly TBRs will inherently tend to under-record slightly and will typically be mounted at eg 4ft height rather than at ground level, so exaggerating this tendency a little. That said, I suspect that there was a particular batch of VP1 gauges that were mis-calibrated at the factory and this is primarily where the reports of 20% under-recording come from. Finally, I agree - the drip method is a good way of checking the calibration - volume figures for the Davis gauges can be found on our website towards the bottom of the page at: http://www.weatherstations.co.uk/vp_faqt2.stm (NB Apologies - this page is now a few years old and really needs updating soon but the figures are still all correct AFAIK) Don't underestimate the care and patience that's needed to run the drip method reliably - although it's reasonably straightforward to do, things like measuring (or weighing) the total volume of water accurately, not exceeding the suggested drip rate etc all need attention. Unless you're meticulous with the method, it's still not easy to get a precision on repeat calibration runs of better than 4-5%. John Dann www.weatherstations.co.uk |
Davis Vantage Pro - Rain gauge calibration
In message , Phil Layton
writes Thanks very much Stephen (and Will for pi!). I will have a go at this, as I reckon I have a 20% underread compared to a manual guage here. Phil Repeated thanks to all, particularly Stephen Burt and John Dann. In tests, it took about 40 mins for 500ml to run through my improvised feed and the result? Well, calculations said that 500ml should translate into 23.64mm and the average of two runs was 23.1mm - close enough for my peace of mind. That still leaves me wondering at the 20% anomaly - the other gauge (1m away and 0.6m lower) checked out as accurate too. Can that separation cause such a large disparity? Anyway, it all goes to prove that John Dann's advice about not twiddling anything until error is proven! -- Chris |
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