Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!

On 10 Jan 2005 16:41:48 -0800, (Scott
Whitehead) wrote:

Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!

He's not the only one in need of some education. A spokeswoman for the
Energy Watchdog (whatever it's called) was interviewed about the
Carlisle floods yesterday, on Sky News. She said: "I don't know if
this heavy rain was caused by the tsunami, but..." I kid you not.

This must be a candidate for Quote of the Year.

--
Dave
*wringing his hands in despair*

Dave Ludlow wrote:
On 10 Jan 2005 16:41:48 -0800, (Scott
Whitehead) wrote:


Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!


He's not the only one in need of some education. A spokeswoman for the
Energy Watchdog (whatever it's called) was interviewed about the
Carlisle floods yesterday, on Sky News. She said: "I don't know if
this heavy rain was caused by the tsunami, but..." I kid you not.

This must be a candidate for Quote of the Year.


I did notice we had a very high tide yesterday (the mid-day tide) ...
guess that was my share of the wave then (;

--
Gianna (choking on her coffee) Stefani

www.buchan-meteo.org.uk

Gianna Stefani wrote:
Dave Ludlow wrote:

On 10 Jan 2005 16:41:48 -0800, (Scott
Whitehead) wrote:


Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!



He's not the only one in need of some education. A spokeswoman for the
Energy Watchdog (whatever it's called) was interviewed about the
Carlisle floods yesterday, on Sky News. She said: "I don't know if
this heavy rain was caused by the tsunami, but..." I kid you not.

This must be a candidate for Quote of the Year.


I did notice we had a very high tide yesterday (the mid-day tide) ...
guess that was my share of the wave then (;


Yes, it bounced around the world, deflecting off coastlines ;-)

Joe
Wolverhampton

Joe Egginton wrote:
Gianna Stefani wrote:
Dave Ludlow wrote:

On 10 Jan 2005 16:41:48 -0800, (Scott
Whitehead) wrote:


Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's
gales and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an
effect on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a
lot more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and
so make the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on
P25 if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!



He's not the only one in need of some education. A spokeswoman for
the Energy Watchdog (whatever it's called) was interviewed about the
Carlisle floods yesterday, on Sky News. She said: "I don't know if
this heavy rain was caused by the tsunami, but..." I kid you not.

This must be a candidate for Quote of the Year.


I did notice we had a very high tide yesterday (the mid-day tide) ...
guess that was my share of the wave then (;


Yes, it bounced around the world, deflecting off coastlines ;-)


ISTR seeing some reports that the tsunami did indeed cause unusual tide
levels in various parts of the globe...

via sci.space.news

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 1/10/05

NOAA 2005-104

NOAA SCIENTISTS ABLE TO MEASURE TSUNAMI HEIGHT FROM SPACE

After reviewing data from four Earth-orbiting radar satellites, NOAA scientists
today announced they were able to measure the height of the devastating tsunami
that erupted in the Indian Ocean. The ability to make depth surveys from space
may lead to improvements in the models that forecast the hazardous effects of
tsunamis. NOAA is an agency of the U.S. Department of Commerce.

The height goes down over time as the wave spreads over the ocean and the energy
is expended on shore. At 2 hours after the quake, it was 60 cm (about 2 feet)
high. By 3 hours 15 minutes after the quake, that dropped to around 40 cm (about
16 inches) high. By 8 hours 50 minutes after the quake, the wave spread over
most of the Indian Ocean and was quite small in most areas -- 5 to 10 cm (2 to 4
inches) -- about the limit of the satellite resolution. However, the wave was
still large enough after all that elapsed time that it was still bouncing around
in the Bay of Bengal still appears about 25 cm high (10 inches) as measured by
the satellites.

Several days after the Indian Ocean tsunami, scientists from NOAA's Laboratory
for Satellite Altimetry in Silver Spring, Md., examined data from the four
spacecraft -- the TOPEX/Poseidon and Jason, operated jointly by NASA and the
French space agency, CNES; the European Space Agency's Envisat and the U.S.
Navy's Geosat Follow-On.

"By chance, these satellites were in the right place at the right time," said
Walter H.F. Smith, a geophysicist at the NOAA LSA, which routinely monitors
sea-level variations from space using radar measurements taken by several
satellites. The measurements are used to make simple charts of unexplored ocean
basins, and to forecast the intensification of hurricanes, the onset of an El
Niño, and other weather and climate events.

Upon further investigation of satellite data, NOAA researchers were able to
detect the Indian Ocean tsunami in profiles of sea level along the satellites'
flight paths by comparing the sea level seen on Dec. 26, 2004, with the sea
level measurements the satellites picked up a few days, or weeks, earlier.

Also, U.S. and French teams, working in parallel with data from the joint
NASA/French Space Agency's Jason and TOPEX/Poseidon, independently confirmed the
satellites' measurements of the height of the tsunami waves. "These observations
are unique and of tremendous value for testing and improving tsunami computer
models and developing future tsunami early warning systems," said Lee-Lueng Fu,
of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif.

Smith emphasized that LSA does not get the satellite data until several hours
after a tsunami has developed -- too late to be used as a real-time forecast.

"Right now, this technique is not a first line of defense in tsunami hazard
monitoring and warnings, but it gives scientists a window to tsunami activity in
the deep and in remote parts of an ocean basin, too far away from coastal tide
gauges and other instruments that could detect it," Smith added.

Smith said NOAA researchers proposed that the best application of satellite data
to improve tsunami hazard forecasts would be a reconnaissance mapping of the
ocean floor from space. "The detailed shape of the sea bed, all across the ocean
basin, determines the focusing -- or diffusion -- of tsunami energy barreling
toward the coast."

At NOAA's Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory in Seattle, scientists have
developed a computer model, showing how the tsunami moved across the Indian
Ocean. Combined with the data from LSA, the PMEL model showed the changing sea
levels along the flight paths of the four satellites, which crossed the ocean
basin after the earthquake.

PMEL scientists apply the tsunami computer model to provide hazard assessments
for communities at risk, and develop a real-time forecast system for NOAA's
Tsunami Warning Centers.

Vasily Titov, an oceanographer at PMEL, said the satellite observations would be
used in ongoing research to improve the understanding of how tsunamis move
across the ocean.

The NOAA Satellite and Information Services is America's primary source of
space-based oceanographic, meteorological and climate data. It operates the
nation's environmental satellites, which are used for ocean and weather
observation and forecasting, climate monitoring, and other environmental
applications. Some of the oceanographic applications include sea-surface
temperature for weather forecasting and sea-surface heights for prediction of El
Niño and hurricane intensification.

NOAA is dedicated to enhancing economic security and national safety through the
prediction and research of weather and climate-related events and providing
environmental stewardship of the nation's coastal and marine resources.

Relevant Web Sites

* NOAA
http://www.noaa.gov
* NOAA's Satellite and Information Services
http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov
* NOAA Laboratory for Satellite Altimetry
http://ibis.grdl.noaa.gov/SAT/
* NOAA Satellites
http://www.noaa.gov/satellites.html

"Dave Ludlow" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jan 2005 16:41:48 -0800, (Scott
Whitehead) wrote:

Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!

He's not the only one in need of some education. A spokeswoman for the
Energy Watchdog (whatever it's called) was interviewed about the
Carlisle floods yesterday, on Sky News. She said: "I don't know if
this heavy rain was caused by the tsunami, but..." I kid you not.

This must be a candidate for Quote of the Year.

--
Dave
*wringing his hands in despair*


The Sun, Sky News - enough said about them, the reporters and the
organisation for which they work.

What will it be next from them? Something like:

"All the extra water dumped on this Country as a result of that damper
atmosphere will in turn evaporate and be carried even further north into the
Arctic, creating a damper atmoshere there and as a result a raging (even for
that area) blizzard over Greenland causing the ice sheet to grow
significantly in size, leading to a significant cooling of the Arctic and
will then lead to 2005/06 being the coldest winter the Northern hemisphere
has ever known"?

I wouldn't put it past them. In the past, the average 5 yr old schoolchild
has been shown to know more about the properties of water and ice crystals
at different temperatures than some reporters working for that organisation!
Furthermore, wasn't it the above Newspaper that carried a headline late last
January that the cold spell we were all waiting for had been delayed because
the cold air was taking longer than expected to get here from Canada?

Just glad I don't contribute in any way with any of their products to their
coffers.

--
Pete

Please take my dog out twice to e-mail

---------------------------------------------------------------
The views expressed above are entirely those of the writer and
do not represent the views, policy or understanding of any
other person or official body.
---------------------------------------------------------------

On 10 Jan 2005 16:41:48 -0800, (Scott Whitehead)
wrote:

Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!

I worry for the future of this nation when I hear about such scientific
ignorance.

Martin

i'm finding myself in 'battle' so to speak with people that come out
with this non-science (change in spelling is intentional)
Perhaps it would be better to ignore them

i said it before, i'll say it again, Pier's and his ilk would be best
suited to a 'mystic hut' whenever the fair (rich gypsies / travellers)
come to town

Those kinds of quotations, that the media then go on to print in the
papers, i find to be truly offensive to realistic intelligent minds

Mediums and Psychics, Clairvoyents bah !! humbug. They need to put up
or shut up

As Jacqueline Stallon (Sylvester's Mum) said after entering Celeb Big
Brother last night that she would do some ass-readings.
She's got a better chance of predicting our futures by reading our
backsides than our palms

Don't fall off your chairs laughing, everybody, but there is an
article in today's (Tuesday) Sun which is blaming the weekend's gales
and heavy rain on the tsunami!

Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn believes the tsunami "could have an effect
on the weather".
He is quoted as saying: "The immediate effect is that it has put a lot
more water on the land. This will evaporate more quickly and so make
the atmosphere damper."

It's a "big fear haunting weather scientists". The article is on P25
if anyone is chomping at the bit to buy a copy!!

I worry for the future of this nation when I hear about such scientific
ignorance.

Martin

I heard some report saying the quake that caused the tsunami was so great it
shifted the earths axis of rotation by an inch or something - is that true,
and how on earth (lol) do you measure something like that on a planetary
scale!?