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Default Solar Power in Ontario Could Produce Almost as Much Power as All U.S. Nuclear Reactors, Studies Find

"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax" wrote in message
On 17/04/2010 05:19, duckstandard wrote:

Nick Backlash wrote:
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote
Only if you learn some manners and ask politely.

I love it when Leonard demands cites.

Then you read everything he posts. It's all opinion, never a cite.
Not a single
cite of factual value. Simply parroting opinion and nothing more.

And that's Leonard the kook.

But he demands cites from everyone else.

Just like Patriot Games, who plays the same childish game.

Providing citations: Leonard 0. Demanding citations: Leonard:

Why pay attention to obvious fools?

Yea I quit giving cites years ago after finding that these people are
just asking questions that they have no interests in the answers. I
ask them for $$$ for my time providing 'provable' cites and haven't
got a dollar
for the same reason.

Actually, I will provide some cites because they are interesting.

yes, they are.... and they are appreciated by others... which is hopefully a
counter-disincentive (as opposed to an incentive) for providing them....
thx.... ;-)

Further cites for claims are provided by wiki

Grid parity
"Grid parity, the point at which photovoltaic electricity is equal to or
cheaper than grid power, is achieved first in areas with abundant sun and
high costs for electricity such as in California and Japan.[58]
Grid parity has been reached in Hawaii and other islands that otherwise
use fossil fuel (diesel fuel) to produce electricity, and most of the US
is expected to reach grid parity by 2015."
Further cites for this claim are provided by wiki

PV Costs:
"As of March 2010, there are now 426 solar module prices below $4.00 per
watt (€2.96 per watt) or 30.5% of the total survey. This compares with 394
price points below $4.00 per watt (€2.92 per watt) in March.
The lowest retail price for a multi-crystalline silicon solar module is
$1.74 per watt (€1.29 per watt) from a US retailer. The lowest retail
price for a mono-crystalline silicon module is also $2.23 per watt (€1.65
per watt), from a German retailer.
Note, however, that "not all models are equal." In other words, brand,
technical attributes and certifications do matter.
The lowest thin film module price remains at $1.76 per watt (€1.30 per
watt) from an Asia-based retailer."
"In order for the solar industry to make a systematic penetration in to
the electricity segment, installed solar system costs will need to drop
from around $8-10/Wp to $3/Wp. This would continue the trend shown above
of falling solar electricity costs over the last twenty-five years. A push
to $3/Wp would bring solar energy costs from the present 30 cents per
kilowatt-hour to around 10 cents per kilowatt-hour, which would allow it
to compete more strongly with other renewables and capture a significant
share of the electricity market. "

On PV installed capacity:
"Photovoltaic production has been doubling every 2 years, increasing by an
average of 48 percent each year since 2002, making it the world’s
fastest-growing energy technology.[5] At the end of 2008, the cumulative
global PV installations reached 15,200 megawatts"

Dirk - Transcendence UK - Occult Talk Show

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