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What was the actual damage from the hurricane in New Orleans before
the levee's broke.

All I've really seen and heard about is the flooding and I've not
really heard what kind of damage the actual hurricane itself did.

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Craig wrote:

What was the actual damage from the hurricane in New Orleans before
the levee's broke.

All I've really seen and heard about is the flooding and I've not
really heard what kind of damage the actual hurricane itself did.

Craig



Take a peek at what it has done to Mississippi. The damage there has
nothing to do with the levee breaks.

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Bob Dalton wrote:
stupid *******......the whole city got wiped out by the hurricane

"Craig" wrote in message
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What was the actual damage from the hurricane in New Orleans before
the levee's broke.

All I've really seen and heard about is the flooding and I've not
really heard what kind of damage the actual hurricane itself did.


I had to smile but the OP did point out that he has been informed of
the disaster.

Here is the NASA take:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/New...3?img_id=17018


What is all now lost in the hype that successive news reporters are
showing at the expense of the good name of the people left to die by
the rich and powerful, is the engineering that gave way.

I rather think that this is what the OP is asking for information
about. Adding insult to injury is not the way to reply -even on altnet.

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Bob, the city is wiped out by the levee breaking, which was caused by
the hurricane,
I was wondering what kind of damage the hurricane itself did, had the
levee not broken.

The only thing I ever did hear was that NO got 7" of rain, i never
did hear the highest wind speed etc.
I didnt think NO had the same kind of damage as Gulfport for
example.

And yes BOB, I am very aware of what the levee's breaking has
caused.

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stupid *******......the whole city got wiped out by the hurricane

"Craig" wrote in message
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What was the actual damage from the hurricane in New Orleans before
the levee's broke.

All I've really seen and heard about is the flooding and I've not
really heard what kind of damage the actual hurricane itself did.

Craig





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Craig wrote:
Bob, the city is wiped out by the levee breaking, which was caused by
the hurricane,
I was wondering what kind of damage the hurricane itself did, had the
levee not broken.

The only thing I ever did hear was that NO got 7" of rain, i never
did hear the highest wind speed etc.
I didnt think NO had the same kind of damage as Gulfport for
example.

And yes BOB, I am very aware of what the levee's breaking has
caused.


Bob D. appears to be pulling his "facts" steaming from his butt.

Since the eye of Katrina passed just east of New Orleans, there was not
as much damage as there was farther east, where the winds were greater
and the storm surge higher as the south winds pushed Gulf water ashore.

The levees were damaged as the low pressure and north winds just west of
the eyewall, pushed water from Lake Pontchartrain over them. The actual
failures occurred a full day later on Tuesday. There doesn't appear to
have been all that much wind damage to the city from the storm, though
there certainly was some.


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There doesn't appear to
have been all that much wind damage to the city from the storm, though
there certainly was some.

Thanks Bob H.
Thats what I was wondering,
And yes I can understand how the west side of the hurricane pushed all
that water over and broke the levee's.
On Monday, all I ever saw was I think a brick wall down and the
Hyatt with all the windows blown out. And they were all saying that the
streets were already dry,
So thats why I was wondering what the damage was Before the levee's
broke.

Thanks
Craig

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"Craig" wrote in message
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There doesn't appear to

have been all that much wind damage to the city from the storm, though
there certainly was some.
Thanks Bob H.
Thats what I was wondering,
And yes I can understand how the west side of the hurricane pushed all
that water over and broke the levee's.
On Monday, all I ever saw was I think a brick wall down and the
Hyatt with all the windows blown out. And they were all saying that the
streets were already dry,
So thats why I was wondering what the damage was Before the levee's
broke.
Thanks
Craig


Air views of NO suggest that wind damage was not anywhere as serious as
along the E side of the eyewall, which raked MS and AL terribly. The forward
speed of the storm was something like 15 mph, yielding approx. 145-155mph
steady winds on the MS side, and perhaps 115 - 125 on the NO side, just due
to the acceleration effect of the northward movement on the NE quadrant of
the hurricane. The exact wind speeds may not be known with any accuracy,
outside of radar measurements, what with the immediate power outages and
severe winds acting on the anemometers, etc. I note all the windows knocked
out of the big downtown hotels in NO, are north facing - just what you would
expect.



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Bob Harrington wrote:
There doesn't appear to have been all that much wind damage to the
city from the storm, though there certainly was some.


Correct. Remember all the articles from late Monday about people
rejoicing at how the historic portions of the French Quarter,
especially, were relatively undamaged?

Katrina was bad for New Orleans, yes, but nothing unfamiliar to folks
who survived Andrew in 1992 (which literally wiped Homestead FL and
its Air Base from the face of the earth) or Ivan just last year, and
certainly nothing as bad as what Gulfport or Biloxi MS (also nearly
wiped clean) saw from it. It was the totally-unexpected levee
breakings on Tuesday that turned a familiar post-hurricane cleaup
story of the kind we've all seen dozens of times on the news into an
unprecedented national disaster.

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Yeechang Lee wrote:

Correct. Remember all the articles from late Monday about people
rejoicing at how the historic portions of the French Quarter,
especially, were relatively undamaged?


No tales of French glee over that. I hear that the United States'
oldest ally were stupified by the degree of damage. And I have no doubt
they too are answering the call for help just like they did 200 years
ago.

Katrina was bad for New Orleans, yes, but nothing unfamiliar to folks
who survived Andrew in 1992 (which literally wiped Homestead FL and
its Air Base from the face of the earth) or Ivan just last year, and
certainly nothing as bad as what Gulfport or Biloxi MS (also nearly
wiped clean) saw from it.


It was the totally-unexpected levee breakings on Tuesday that
turned a familiar post-hurricane cleaup story into an unprecedented
national disaster.


I was thinking that New Orleans measures up to New York, San Francisco
and Los Angeles as a major port. So I would have said that it hit a
quarter of the economy.

But there are 5 major ports concerned; from Mobile to Houston. Along
with that is the oilfield damage and some of the worlds greatest
shipping lines.

The Mississippi and the railroad that runs alongside it serves the
midwest as far as Chicago. If I remember the words of the song, that's
500 miles of economic disruption.

What would it have cost to take over the running of the various flood
control centres and run them properly? (Not counting pest control to
remove apes from the Nit House.)

OT
Ergonomically speaking; how long must that Con, Rice have been packing
emergency supplies? I imagine that she would have had a terrible leg
and back problem if she spent more than a few minutes striking that
pose for the cameras.



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