Much of south coast west of IOW is being clouted by the cloud originating around this gap if you look at the sat pic http://www.sat24.com/en/gb Channel generated cloud is trying to stay in organised streets under the inversion. A bit more broken in the Wembury area. But sun in short supply. I am not fond of these lazy wind conditions and long for the nice long 'suckers gap' to begin Wednesday.

Another occasions when weather here not representative of much of area nearby. Expected crisp and possibly foggy frosty morning, as many places not far to W of me are enjoying. Actually have 7 Oktas Sc around 3000Ft, and recorded a MIn Temp of PS 0.1 C. Clear Sky visble around 3 Mi to W. Overcast to East. Last Air frost on 20 Dec.

Evershot: 196m amsl 13/01/12 09-09z Ppn: 24hrs 0.0mm Month 34.4mm 30-day 72.2mm Temp: Max 4.9°C

140900Z 00000KT 3500 HZ TrCi280 -3.2/-4.3 QFF 1031.5 (+0.2 in 3 hr)= Humidity: 92% (0% last hour) COTRA Max 09-09: 7.8 Min 09-09: -3.8 Average temperature for January: 7.8 Grass Min 18-09: -7.4 30cm Soil Temp: 6.0 Rain 09-09: 0.2 mm January Rain (00-24): 20.8 mm

Southcote - 0900Z CALM 8000 BR 1CI250 -4.1/-4.9 1031.5 A fine and frosty night Max (09 - 09) +8.6 Min (18 - 09) -4.3 Grass Min (18 - 09) -6.3 Rain (09 - 09) 0.0

Well typical; a sheet of boring stratocumulus ruins a good frost night :-( Min +1.8C Now at 0830 +3.6C with a light (and increasing SE wind). Max. will be lower than yesterday as it is cloudy. At least it is dry though. http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Haytor/automatic/Current_Vantage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) ---------------------------------------------

My lowest so far this winter. Dropped 0.2C in the past hour so we might squeak -5.5C or so before the sun comes up. Tom Blackmore, SW Essex

FZFG here this morning - doesn't seem to be much around on the reports apart from Odiham. Looks fairly thin with brightness above. Tn -4.2c at 03Z atm. Coldest temp of the season. -- Phil Guildford

Here is a summary of the NWP output for noon on Wednesday. Issued 0528, 14/01/12 The battle between cold air to the east and milder air to the west still looks set to occur next week. The latter half of the working week will see WSW'lies across the UK as low pressure moves eastwards to the north. By the weekend, however, GFS and ECM are as far apart as they were yesterday. ECM still drives...

Or are there more questions than answers or maybe just too many models to cross. However: Okay Stratospheric warming creates Tropospheric cooling-why? I also understand that the Polar Vortex being knocked of its perch leads to a far less active jet stream and westerly's at out latitudes with ridging and troughing far more likely but is that due to stratospheric warming as well.

*European overview* 12th JANUARY 2012 Max °C Min °C Rain (mm) -3.6 -6.9 - Ny Alesund(8m) 0.2 -3.8 3.7 Moscow(156m) 1.1 -4.1 - Reykjavik(61m) 3.9 2.9 - Bergen(50m) 2.0 -1.8 - Oslo (204m)

After the different winters of the last two years I wonder if this one will return to a common default position of other recent winters. High pressure spells with the threat of potent northerlies only for the threat to shift East with a so called "toppler" HP. I hope not but the starting blocks are appearing (excuse the pun) :-( Dave

13/1025 Z Jan 12: NE F1 25KM 7CI250 4.0/3.5 1034 Rmks: Excellent visibility, with Dartmoor clearly visible, although there is fog in the lower lying areas to the south and west. Min 1.2 (still no air frost yet this winter), grass min -4.9. -- Andy http://www.romansleighweather.co.uk/

Brussels on Friday 13th January 2012 Sunny periods alternated with more cloudy spells. W wind in the morning veered NW to N in the afternoon - mostly light, but moderate at times in the afternoon. Brussels Uccle 7.0°C - overnight minimum 2.3°C - and 0.1 mm rain Brussels Airport 6.9°C - overnight minimum 2.9°C Brussels Airport http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/EBBR.html

at last some winter weather clear, crisp, just need the even! already -1c, hard frost -5 widely tomorrow?

Friday 13th January 2012 Meteosat MSG satellite picture from Ferdinand Valk's site at 12.00 UTC http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day_image/MSG-1200-EUR.jpg NOAA 19 satellite picture from DLR at 12.48 UTC ftp://taurus.caf.dlr.de/put/wetterbilder/UK/image1.jpg

*European overview* 11th JANUARY 2012 Max °C Min °C Rain (mm) -2.0 -7.1 - Ny Alesund(8m) -1.3 -2.7 2.0 Moscow(156m) 2.5 -1.0 0.6 Reykjavik(61m) 6.0 2.5 - Bergen(50m) 2.3 -2.4 - Oslo (204m)

Will, get chopping... http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2012011312/ECM1-240.GIF?13-0

Sunny, no wind, excellent visibility, widespread hoar frost, scraping the car window, temp 2C at 0845. Marvellous! http://www.lyneside.demon.co.uk/Haytor/automatic/Current_Vantage_Pro.htm Will Hand (Haytor, Devon, 1017 feet asl) ---------------------------------------------

Tideswell, Derbyshire - Friday 13th January 2012 ----------------------------------------------------- 0630z NW F2 30+km 7Ci350 +01.1/+00.5 1032 RMK: Slight frost on grass. Hard surfaces are dry. Several persistent contrails. Quite an edge to the breeze. -- Norman Lynagh Tideswell, Derbyshire