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Killer Freeze on the way...



 
 
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Old January 28th 12, 01:41 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Scott W
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according to the Express... It seems the Department of Health have
taken up the baton of cold weather predicting with the passing of PWS
and others.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...THER-WILL-KILL
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Old January 28th 12, 08:10 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
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On Jan 28, 1:41*am, Scott W wrote:
according to the Express... It seems the Department of Health have
taken up the baton of cold weather predicting with the passing of PWS
and others.http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...THER-WILL-KILL


The NHS gets its information from the MetO Scott.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...dweatheralert/

We'll have these warnings now almost every time there's a chance of a
couple of days of frost. We had one for some areas last weekend too,
IIRC. We'll have many in winters to come. The Daily Express then
exaggerrates the warning ridiculously.

I'm sanguine about it. Cold really does kill and a night's cold can
kill, if someone older, slower and perhaps confused, is not prepared.
If the warning can alert a healthworker, or neighbour, to check on
them, or a visiting GP to alert them, I don't see that as a bad thing.
I do see the Daily Express' headlines as a bad thing. In fact, I see
the daily Express as a bad thing! *))
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Old January 28th 12, 09:12 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
David Allan
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"Scott W" wrote in message
...
according to the Express... It seems the Department of Health have
taken up the baton of cold weather predicting with the passing of PWS
and others.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...THER-WILL-KILL


================================================== ==========
I gave up on the Express when it became apparent that the subject matter of
the front page story was either something to do with Princess Diana, the
search for Madeline or the weather. I note that if you scroll down the page
on the above link, the first of these subjects is STILL making the 'news' .

When it came to the weather, if it wasn't the 'killer freeze on the way' it
would be the 'killer heatwave'. Hurricanes, monsoons, droughts... if nothing
else the Express painted an exciting, if somewhat exaggerated, depiction of
what weather was coming our way.
We all know that newspapers need to sell and it wouldn't look quite the same
if the headline screamed out 'It's going to be a bit nippy!' or ' Be
warned... you're going to need your brolly!'.
In the need to save money, many journalists have been sacked and of those
who are left holding the fort, there simply is not the amount of time to get
out and search for 'real' stories. Writing about a subject that we all talk
about as a national obsession anyway is just another example of lazy
journalism... especially when most of it is far from accurate.

Regards... David Allan.


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Old January 28th 12, 09:25 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Col
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"David Allan" wrote in message
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"Scott W" wrote in message
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according to the Express... It seems the Department of Health have
taken up the baton of cold weather predicting with the passing of PWS
and others.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...THER-WILL-KILL


================================================== ==========
I gave up on the Express when it became apparent that the subject matter
of the front page story was either something to do with Princess Diana,
the search for Madeline or the weather. I note that if you scroll down the
page on the above link, the first of these subjects is STILL making the
'news' .

When it came to the weather, if it wasn't the 'killer freeze on the way'
it would be the 'killer heatwave'. Hurricanes, monsoons, droughts... if
nothing else the Express painted an exciting, if somewhat exaggerated,
depiction of what weather was coming our way.
We all know that newspapers need to sell and it wouldn't look quite the
same if the headline screamed out 'It's going to be a bit nippy!' or ' Be
warned... you're going to need your brolly!'.
In the need to save money, many journalists have been sacked and of those
who are left holding the fort, there simply is not the amount of time to
get out and search for 'real' stories. Writing about a subject that we all
talk about as a national obsession anyway is just another example of lazy
journalism... especially when most of it is far from accurate.


And they get away with it because of the public's ignorance.
We may talk about it a lot, but that doesn't mean we know
much about it.
'Siberian blasts' indeed. I think it's very rare that we get true
Siberian air in this country.
They just say it because every knows Siberia is very cold!
--
Col

Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl


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Old January 28th 12, 11:06 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Dave Cornwell[_4_]
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Col wrote:

They just say it because every knows Siberia is very cold!

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Not on the quiz shows I watch they don't!
Dave
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Old January 28th 12, 11:28 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Keith Harris
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On Jan 28, 11:06*am, Dave Cornwell wrote:
Col wrote:

They just say it because every knows Siberia is very cold!


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Not on the quiz shows I watch they don't!
Dave


I guess this will get worse now that they can't phone hack now!

I do wonder why still they are not accountable, but then if the head
of RBS gets a bonus for the mess his peers have got us in, I guess
we'll see the captain of Costa Concordia getting a bonus next. Reward
for failure. There's no hope for the rest of us ! I guess that's why
I've taken control of my own destiny.

Keith (Southend)
http://www.southendweather.net
"Weather Home & Abroad"
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Old January 28th 12, 11:40 AM posted to uk.sci.weather
Dave Cornwell[_4_]
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Scott W wrote:
according to the Express... It seems the Department of Health have
taken up the baton of cold weather predicting with the passing of PWS
and others.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...THER-WILL-KILL

--------------------------------
Also this is what the Met Office are up against - released by the Press
Association three hours ago.
"Predictions of plummeting temperatures and arctic conditions gripping
the nation have proven wrong.

Forecasters said wintry showers and hail were expected to blast parts of
Britain with the country bracing itself for cold weather and snow in
some regions.

The forecasts came after weeks of unseasonably mild weather and as the
Met Office issued a severe weather warning for ice to motorists
travelling on untreated roads in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and
northern England.

But there were no massive blanketings of snow - but mainly rain showers
and even strong sun in the South East......."
They go on to give a more reasonable assessment of next week but they
just don't get it really, do they?
Dave
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Old January 28th 12, 02:38 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
Tom2131
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On Jan 28, 8:10*am, Dawlish wrote:

*We'll have these warnings now almost every time there's a chance of a
couple of days of frost. We had one for some areas last weekend too,
IIRC. We'll have many in winters to come. The Daily Express then
exaggerrates the warning ridiculously.


Couldn't agree more, but each paper appears to have it's own theme
which (it thinks) appeals to its core readership.

The Daily Mail recently went for the ultimate mega-disaster, nice and
close to home. On 2nd January this year, they decided a dormant
"super-volcano" (cf. "mini-tornado") close to the German/Belgian
border, 390 miles from London, was "showing worrying signs of waking-
up". See: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...many-blow.html
It most likely isn't, as it's been documented as merrily "degassing"
into the caldera lake for centuries but, hey, why spoil a good story?

I'm also a bit miffed they've spoiled my occasional pub conversation-
stopper of: "Where's the nearest volcano to here (south-east
England)?" No-one ever got it and it was always a surprise - as it
was to me when I first heard about it (and that it was most likely a
plume head and had last erupted less than 13,000 years ago.)

Sorry if a bit off-topic but I thought some of you might be
interested ......

- Tom.
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Old January 28th 12, 03:31 PM posted to uk.sci.weather
Dave Liquorice[_3_]
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:40:44 +0000, Dave Cornwell wrote:

The forecasts came after weeks of unseasonably mild weather and as the
Met Office issued a severe weather warning for ice to motorists
travelling on untreated roads in Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales and
northern England.

But there were no massive blanketings of snow - but mainly rain showers
and even strong sun in the South East......."
They go on to give a more reasonable assessment of next week but they
just don't get it really, do they?


Well most journalists aren't the brightest sparks in the box and then
being in the SE don't know where anything north of Watford is or that
the weather out of their window doesn't actually apply across the
entire country.

Currently bright and sunny, 3cm of lying snow, 2C, no wind.
Last night min -3.6C @ 08:10.

--
Cheers Dave.
Nr Garrigill, Cumbria. 421m ASL.



 




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