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Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind
the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...te-0-42-deg-c/ |
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On 3 Sep, 12:06, Dawlish wrote:
Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera... Not really - 0.01C is bugger all, and pretty meaningless really, and it IS less than 1998, not that that's important. La Nina or not, the globe will cool - I know it, and you know it... CK |
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"Natsman" wrote in message ... On 3 Sep, 12:06, Dawlish wrote: Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera... Not really - 0.01C is bugger all, and pretty meaningless really, and it IS less than 1998, not that that's important. La Nina or not, the globe will cool - I know it, and you know it... CK --------------------- Well that's two of you then. Unfortunately I'm one of the ones not smart enough to "know it" Dave |
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"Dawlish" wrote in message ... Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...te-0-42-deg-c/ Are you suggesting it's all down to Co2 in 2009/10 ? |
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On Sep 3, 7:58*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message ... Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera... Are you suggesting it's all down to Co2 in 2009/10 ? ??? |
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"Dawlish" wrote in message ... On Sep 3, 7:58 pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote: "Dawlish" wrote in message ... Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera... Are you suggesting it's all down to Co2 in 2009/10 ? ??? Well those temperarures are now dropping like a stone in the 14,000 ' range and although the facts show us we are touch and go for beating the 98 record. However the subsequent temp drop from 98 and then rise again, show that other mechanisms outside of Co2 are clearly at work. The gist of your posts on this subject seem to clearly point to C02. |
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****ing as usual
On 03/09/2010 11:06 AM, Dawlish wrote: Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. |
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On Sep 3, 11:06*am, Dawlish wrote:
Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera... RSS hot on the heels of UAH for August. At +0.608C, it is easily the warmest August on record. That really is amazing and ought to make anyone sceptical of AGW question what is happening. It is me. It is nearly 9 months since the peak of the last El Nino and the Pacific has been cooling quickly since then, to be in the the La Nina conditions that see now. In addition we are *still* in the longest solar minimum for over a century, sunspot cycle 24 has just not got going and the PDO is in a negative phase (OK, whatever that actually means for climate, but some sceptical sources, e.g. Roy Spencer, have touted this as a reason why the earth will cool off). The question anyone has to ask themselves, who has an interest in this, is why is it continuing to stay so warm, despite this combination of major negative forcings? |
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On Sep 3, 10:10*pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote:
"Dawlish" wrote in message ... On Sep 3, 7:58 pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote: "Dawlish" wrote in message .... Quite amazing how the globe is not cooling. August only 0.01C behind the super El Nino August of 1998 with La Nina conditions across the central Pacific. http://www.drroyspencer.com/2009/10/...global-tempera.... Are you suggesting it's all down to Co2 in 2009/10 ? ??? Well those temperarures are now dropping like a stone *in the 14,000 ' range and although the facts show us we are touch and go for beating the 98 record. However *the subsequent temp drop from 98 and then rise again, show that other mechanisms outside of Co2 are clearly at work. *The gist of your posts on this subject seem to clearly point to C02. The 1998, 12 month, temperature record has now been beaten 5 times in 5 months. With August being so warm and the last 4 months of 1998 having being influenced by a quick fall off in temperatures, as the world cooled after the super El Nino (which, not, has not happened in 2010), the 12-month annual record *will* now be beaten, unless there is a terrific fall off in temperature. It most definitely is not, as you say "touch and go". It is highly likely that 2010 will be the warmest year since records began and probably by a wide margin on all 5 temperature series. Not sure why temperatures at 14,000 feet should indicate anything, as the atmosphere should be being cooled from *below* by the cooling Pacific ocean. Of course other mechanisms are at work. ENSO is at work. That's why the temperature trend is not linear and never can be. ENSO is the thing that has been at work, via the rapid change to La Nina conditions, for 8 months in 2010, cooling the atmosphere over all that time..........so why haven't we seen cooling? What factor has prevented the cooling in 2010? That's the question anyone that is a climate change denier, or sceptic, has to ask themselves and it is one that nags at me, for sure. |
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