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Teignmouth wrote:
The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl |
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On 25 Aug, 18:04, "Col" wrote:
Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. I *never* usually get involved in flame wars, but I really don't understand what Dawlish is supposed to have ever done to deserve some of this personal abuse. The beauty of this newsgroup is that we encourage opinion, and personally, I value what he has to say! Steve J |
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, Steve J writes: On 25 Aug, 18:04, "Col" wrote: Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. I *never* usually get involved in flame wars, but I really don't understand what Dawlish is supposed to have ever done to deserve some of this personal abuse. Agreed. He's done nothing here within the last year or two to deserve it IMO. I don't care what he may or may not have done on other forums. By all means abuse him there if his posts there merit it, but not here. The beauty of this newsgroup is that we encourage opinion, and personally, I value what he has to say! Agreed again. Other people are quite entitled to the opinion that his forecasts are worthless, of course, but there doesn't seem any need for them to keep on repeating themselves in response to every post he makes. -- John Hall "I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking." Katherine Cebrian |
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On 24 Aug, 22:56, two-Tango wrote:
you cant postpone a season. u try forecasting it. oh wait u cant. can u? your not qualified not a forecaster no history no reputation no ****ing brains. back to school next week for you ****head? usw will be quiet. My goodness me. Do I detect the presence of a qualified forecaster, with a big reputation and an even bigger brain? I wasnt aware that they used such childish language. Or, maybe here we have a prime example of the most extreme hypocrisy possible on this ng? I haven't smiled so much in ages in an appreciation of wonderful irony, keep it up - and thanks very much. |
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On Aug 25, 6:04*pm, "Col" wrote:
Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl And cross model agreement Col. Consistency in just one model isn't enough. |
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On Aug 25, 8:17*pm, Dawlish wrote:
On Aug 25, 6:04*pm, "Col" wrote: Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl And cross model agreement Col. Consistency in just one model isn't enough.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nothing in the models today to change my view of an end to the cololer and wetter weather and a return to summery conditions in the medium- term. A change could come, but I'm 75% confident of this happening. Wish I was going to see Muse; the concert in Teignmouth last year was one of *the* gigs of the year anywhere, by anyone, but you might not need the brolly and the thermal vest, T. |
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"John Hall" wrote in message news ![]() In article , Steve J writes: On 25 Aug, 18:04, "Col" wrote: Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I'm off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou'wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It's no good saying, I can't provide you with a forecast today because the models don't agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. I *never* usually get involved in flame wars, but I really don't understand what Dawlish is supposed to have ever done to deserve some of this personal abuse. Agreed. He's done nothing here within the last year or two to deserve it IMO. I don't care what he may or may not have done on other forums. By all means abuse him there if his posts there merit it, but not here. The beauty of this newsgroup is that we encourage opinion, and personally, I value what he has to say! Agreed again. Other people are quite entitled to the opinion that his forecasts are worthless, of course, but there doesn't seem any need for them to keep on repeating themselves in response to every post he makes. -- John Hall "I don't even butter my bread; I consider that cooking." Katherine Cebrian # Funny because because if someone gives a sceptical opinion on a AGW topic when it often comes up, he's the first in there thowing out personal insults. The truth is that most here can forecast and write reams on the model output but a forecaster that does not make. Posting almost every day about the various models seems an attempt to be taken seriously as a forecaster without ever making a forecast.. Its a bit like someone trying to be taken seriously as an aviation scientist because they watched a test flight video on National Georgraphic . By all means people can have a crack at a forecast but has Dullish ever made a forecast and if he has has it been more then a week ahead. I don't want to butter Will up but he will disagree with the models on occassion and be proved right weeks aheadas well as wrong on some occassions. |
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perfectly said.
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups/pr...l47z4AZhN98BFg what a crook. not a forecaster. no stats. no qualifications. armchair wannabe forecaster only forecasts when he thinks he will be right. do you see will or the met office saying, "no forecast" today, no consistency? cherry picked bollox all the way to reality. hes not even a teacher. On 25/08/2010 8:16 AM, Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts& Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. I can also look at the models and make a judgement of my own, even if the models don’t agree I would have a go at forecasting and, I’m dismissing the current model output and going for cool (15-17c) with a NW breeze& showers. |
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"Dawlish" wrote in message ... On Aug 25, 8:17 pm, Dawlish wrote: On Aug 25, 6:04 pm, "Col" wrote: Teignmouth wrote: The problem is if Dawlish only forecasts when all the models agree at T240 (which is very rarely), what happens all the other times? I’m off to Manchester on 4th September to watch Muse play in an open air arena at Lanchashire Country Cricket Ground, I need to know whether I need to purchase a full on Sou’wester, a pac-a-mac, shorts & Tshirt or sun cream? It’s no good saying, I can’t provide you with a forecast today because the models don’t agree. As somebody else pointed out, that would only be a problem if he was providing a professional paid-for service. No good then crying off if it's too difficult ![]() But he's not. He's just lookng for those times when the models show consistency at 10 days. No more, no less. -- Col Bolton, Lancashire 160m asl And cross model agreement Col. Consistency in just one model isn't enough.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nothing in the models today to change my view of an end to the cololer and wetter weather and a return to summery conditions in the medium- term. A change could come, but I'm 75% confident of this happening. Wish I was going to see Muse; the concert in Teignmouth last year was one of *the* gigs of the year anywhere, by anyone, but you might not need the brolly and the thermal vest, T. "Cololer" is that a water bourne infectious bacteria? |
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