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"Dawlish" wrote in message ... On Jul 7, 4:27 pm, Lawrence13 wrote: On Jul 7, 1:38 pm, Dawlish wrote: On Jul 7, 10:29 am, Natsman wrote: On 7 July, 09:34, Dawlish wrote: On Jul 6, 11:05 pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote: "Dawlish" wrote in message ... It might be worth the denialist crowd taking a look at this - at it will be worth reading for the more sensible contributors to this newsgroup. As you read it, not the numbers of scientists involved and the explanations of why Antarctica has actually cooled. It's a big report and may take a while to download, but it is worth the read: http://www.scar.org/publications/occ...5_Nov_2009.pdf Here's a BBC summary: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8387137.stm Then deny it, as you will; science will not convince you, I know that - but if you do, make sure you include some science in your reply. That's why the Antarctic sea Ice extent is the third highest since satellite record began, Am I missing something here?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes you are missing something completely. The reason is that you haven't followed the links. When you do, you'll see your answer to the question I've asked you 34 times for (IIRC). "Why do you think variations in Antarctic sea ice is somehow relevant, Lawrence" (35). Even after all this time and the whole of the Internet to search for the answer (and it is easy, a child of 8 could easily find it) you haven't bothered, so you still believe what you did a year ago.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I note that you continue to misuse the term "denialist" which has connotations of the holocaust. For my part, I prefer the term "realist", or at a push, "sceptic". As regards your post, the earth is in no immediate danger from ANY climate change effect, any more than it has ever been, and certainly not due to the presence of mankind. It will continue to alternate between warming and cooling, as it always has done, and this cycle is, has been, and will be largely driven by the sun. CO2 is a non-runner in the contest of "suspected" criteria, and those who think otherwise are on an expensive hiding to nothing. The tables have turned, the public is no longer "on-side", and the warming agenda is falling at just about every hurdle. Dawlish, you appear to me to be not a particularly nice person, but then the alarmists are a blinkered religion, and think there is a God on their side. Not so. CK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. "Denier" appears to elicit those connotations in the minds of anyone who denies mainstream climate science. Goodness knows why they make that connection; it's just a way of trying to tar the namer as no- one who calls someone a denier (for the very good reason that they deny what is highly likely to happen) ever means any such connotation, but to be sympathetic to you and other such people's feelings, I use the word denialist. I hope you appreciate the difference and the fact that I do that. If you don't; you know what you can do. Believe what you wish about natural cycles; then try to find a body of scientists (Jenkins doesn't count, surprisingly) that agree with you. Good luck trying. I can assure you that if there's a god on my side, I ain't on hers, but if she appears, I might change my mind. Other people can make their minds up about you and have.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Your such a charmless fellow aren't you. Terry Tibbs has your number- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Idiot. That's the only description that applies well to you. I reserve charm and respect for people with intelligence - which is why you don't get any. Bye. You mean like you did with Mike and Tudor you pompous coward |
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"Dawlish" wrote in message ... On Jul 7, 10:29 am, Natsman wrote: On 7 July, 09:34, Dawlish wrote: On Jul 6, 11:05 pm, "Lawrence Jenkins" wrote: "Dawlish" wrote in message ... It might be worth the denialist crowd taking a look at this - at it will be worth reading for the more sensible contributors to this newsgroup. As you read it, not the numbers of scientists involved and the explanations of why Antarctica has actually cooled. It's a big report and may take a while to download, but it is worth the read: http://www.scar.org/publications/occ...5_Nov_2009.pdf Here's a BBC summary: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8387137.stm Then deny it, as you will; science will not convince you, I know that - but if you do, make sure you include some science in your reply. That's why the Antarctic sea Ice extent is the third highest since satellite record began, Am I missing something here?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes you are missing something completely. The reason is that you haven't followed the links. When you do, you'll see your answer to the question I've asked you 34 times for (IIRC). "Why do you think variations in Antarctic sea ice is somehow relevant, Lawrence" (35). Even after all this time and the whole of the Internet to search for the answer (and it is easy, a child of 8 could easily find it) you haven't bothered, so you still believe what you did a year ago.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I note that you continue to misuse the term "denialist" which has connotations of the holocaust. For my part, I prefer the term "realist", or at a push, "sceptic". As regards your post, the earth is in no immediate danger from ANY climate change effect, any more than it has ever been, and certainly not due to the presence of mankind. It will continue to alternate between warming and cooling, as it always has done, and this cycle is, has been, and will be largely driven by the sun. CO2 is a non-runner in the contest of "suspected" criteria, and those who think otherwise are on an expensive hiding to nothing. The tables have turned, the public is no longer "on-side", and the warming agenda is falling at just about every hurdle. Dawlish, you appear to me to be not a particularly nice person, but then the alarmists are a blinkered religion, and think there is a God on their side. Not so. CK- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nope. "Denier" appears to elicit those connotations in the minds of anyone who denies mainstream climate science. Goodness knows why they make that connection; it's just a way of trying to tar the namer as no- one who calls someone a denier (for the very good reason that they deny what is highly likely to happen) ever means any such connotation, but to be sympathetic to you and other such people's feelings, I use the word denialist. I hope you appreciate the difference and the fact that I do that. If you don't; you know what you can do. Believe what you wish about natural cycles; then try to find a body of scientists (Jenkins doesn't count, surprisingly) that agree with you. Good luck trying. I can assure you that if there's a god on my side, I ain't on hers, but if she appears, I might change my mind. Other people can make their minds up about you and have. Oh, you right on plonker. |
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