Here is a list of the tabs I have open in Opera. It is by no means all
of them but they are the ones I have to check out to get some idea
what I should have been saying rather than what I actually have said:

http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html
Useful mix of satellite and synoptics.

http://wmc.meteoinfo.ru/losev-forc
Russian chart giving 48 hours a 12 hour update on Moscow time is
rather sporadic.

http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm
A collection of charts and info that gives a british source for
British synoptic charts. I find it updates more often than
Wetterzentrale.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/...is/947_100.gif
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...me=00&Type=pnm
Two excellent Canadian charts. Pity they are just one a day though you
can get a later version of them if you look. I wonder what it would
cost to update it automatically?

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/efs.html
This is an undoctored modelk run. You can get a much longer loop you
need to get into the site through a different page at first but once
oyu have their cookies you can carry on as normal.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/
The graphic on here shows that earthquakes are clusters that occur
geometrically rather than due to loading.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/081006_rpts.html
This will give the tornadic activity. It has been so quiet on there
over the last few weeks I stopped looking. When I see Chuina is active
seismically I look and see some action. (The last couple of days for
example.)

http://www.stormbanner.com/
http://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane-watch.htm
Thes two are excellent for following tropical storms.

http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...ontent=archive
This is something that gives a good overview once a week. Volcanoes re
very much the poor relation of earth science.

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html
Lunar phases.

I have to put " " in front of them to prevent Google munging html
links. If I don't the links tend to buch up and appear as one
paragraph.

The Atlantic chart shows that the lows are going over Iceland for this
spell. A return to the Davis Strait route?

A look at the MetO charts for the September 15th to 22nd spell shows
this is definitely a mark of the beast. Let's take a look at how the
spells repeat:
15th September @ 09:13
22nd September @ 05:04
29th September @ 08:12
7th October @ 09:04
14thOctober @ 20:03

the 05:04 phase was exactly the same as the 09:13 spell. So we can
lump all three together:
15th September @ 09:13
22nd September @ 05:04
7th October @ 09:04
And the next pair are similar in their relationship. Some difference
in the tectonic and meteorological storms but the intensities are
similar. Just placing them is a PITA.
14thOctober @ 20:0329th September @ 08:12

On Oct 7, 2:19*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
Here is a list of the tabs I have open in Opera. It is by no means all
of them but they are the ones I have to check out to get some idea
what I should have been saying rather than what I actually have said:

http://weather.unisys.com/images/sat_sfc_map_loop.html

Useful mix of satellite and synoptics.

http://wmc.meteoinfo.ru/losev-forc

Russian chart giving 48 hours a 12 hour update on Moscow time is
rather sporadic.

http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co...r/Dorridge.htm

A collection of charts and info that gives a british source for
British synoptic charts. I find it updates more often than
Wetterzentrale.

http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/data/...is/947_100.gif
http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/ensem...our=0&Day=0&Ru...

Two excellent Canadian charts. Pity they are just one a day though you
can get a later version of them if you look. I wonder what it would
cost to update it automatically?

https://www.fnmoc.navy.mil/efs/efs.html

This is an undoctored modelk run. You can get a much longer loop you
need to get into the site through a different page at first but once
oyu have their cookies you can carry on as normal.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/

The graphic on here shows that earthquakes are clusters that occur
geometrically rather than due to loading.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/081006_rpts.html

This will give the tornadic activity. It has been so quiet on there
over the last few weeks I stopped looking. When I see Chuina is active
seismically I look and see some action. (The last couple of days for
example.)

http://www.stormbanner.com/
http://satellite.ehabich.info/hurricane-watch.htm

Thes two are excellent for following tropical storms.

http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/us...ontent=archive

This is something that gives a good overview once a week. Volcanoes re
very much the poor relation of earth science.

http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html

Lunar phases.

I have to put " " in front of them to prevent Google munging html
links. If I don't the links tend to buch up and appear as one
paragraph.

The Atlantic chart shows that the lows are going over Iceland for this
spell. A return to the Davis Strait route?

A look at the MetO charts for the September 15th to 22nd spell shows
this is definitely a mark of the beast. Let's take a look at how the
spells repeat:
15th September @ 09:13
22nd September @ 05:04
29th September @ 08:12
7th October @ 09:04
14thOctober @ 20:03

the 05:04 phase was exactly the same as the 09:13 spell. So we can
lump all three together:
15th September @ 09:13
22nd September @ 05:04
7th October @ 09:04
And the next pair are similar in their relationship. Some difference
in the tectonic and meteorological storms but the intensities are
similar. Just placing them is a PITA.
14thOctober @ 20:0329th September @ 08:12

From the spell a couple of weeks back that occurred with a time of
phase of 09:13:

The USA had fine weather spreading east from the Rockies there was
hail, high winds or tornadoes reportedin the first few days of the
spell.

The USA has high pressure virtually all over the place inland and lows
along both coasts.

When you look at the way those Lows off the North American west coast
avoid crossing the Rockies you can glimpse the reason that hurricanes
take the paths they do.

They just love to hug shorelines and avoid mountains or Mid Atlantic
Ridges. I rather think the reason is that the sound they are tied to
is channelled in those ground levels.

I don't remember seeing such a clear run over the USA.

Things seem to have settled down with the seismicity off the west
coast. It is worth bearing in mind that the relationship I first
noticed between the weather on the US east coast and earthquakes in
the Aleutians was with highs leaving at regular intervals.

This was one of those spells.

The occlusion running N/S from the Arctic through Britain was
something I had never noticed before. It seemed remarkably long lived.
We were overdue some severe stuff from somewhere in the system. This
turned out to be a severe quake in the Kermadec Island region along
with some severe ones elsewhere.

Odd little skipping stones he
2008/09/18

3.4 17:32 35.2 -119.4 Central California

+20 degrees longitude =

3.1 14:56 60.6; -137.2 Southern Yukon Territory,

+20 degrees longitude =

5.8 11:59 52.3; 156.8 Kamchatka Peninsula,
5.9 11:59 52.0; 158.2 E Coast of Kamchatka,

+20 degrees longitude =

3.5 09:05 51.6; -179.0 Andreanof Islands,
2.8 07:14 52.4; -178.4 Andreanof Islands,

Pity this one got in the way:

5.2 09:30 46.2; 143.5 Sakhalin, Russia

Ike and its sister produced quite a spate of quakes in the Aleutians
one of them a 4.6 M.

These smaller quakes can predict the weather.

If you were watching a plot from a region that was having these
microbursts or whatever they are called, regularly, you'd get a taste
of the sort of weather to expect with them. Then you would need to
identify the sequences such as this:
Coquimbo, Chile
Island Of Hawaii, Hawaii
Tajikistan
Offshore Guatemala
Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan

Unimak Island Region, Alaska
Santa Cruz Islands Region
Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska
Unimak Island Region, Alaska
Southern California
Ascension Island Region
Volcano Islands, Japan Region
Central Alaska
Ryukyu Islands, Japan
South Of The Fiji Islands
Puerto Rico Region
South Of Tonga
Baja California, Mexico
Northern Sumatra, Indonesia
Samoa Islands
Central California
Greater Los Angeles Area, California
Fiji Region
Utah

Fox Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska
Andaman Islands, India Region
Southern Alaska
Northern Alaska
New Ireland Region, Papua New Guinea
Central California
Virgin Islands Region
Southern Yukon Territory, Canada
Near The East Coast Of Kamchatka, Russia
Sakhalin, Russia
Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Is., Alaska
Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Is., Alaska
South Of The Aleutian Islands
South Of The Aleutian Islands
Alaska Peninsula
Alaska Peninsula
Nevada
Southern Iran
Central East Pacific Rise
Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Is., Alaska
Andreanof Islands, Aleutian Is., Alaska
Lake Erie, Ohio
Puerto Rico Region

Which wouldn't be easy but it is do-able.


5.2 M. 2008/09/20 05:16 63.6 N. 129.2 W. NW Territories, Canada. No
proof offered and no reason given but this quake is due to the High
leaving the USA/Canada over the NE coast near Newfoundland.

Ditto for this one:
5.4 M. 20th @ 14:43. 16.1 S. 73.8 W. South coast of Peru.

And most likely, this one too:
4.9 M. 20th @ 16:30. 15.4 N. 91.7 W. Guatemala.

On Oct 8, 11:51*am, Weatherlawyer wrote:

The Atlantic chart shows that the lows are going over Iceland
for this spell. A return to the Davis Strait route?

Look at how the spells repeat:

15th September @ 09:13
22nd September @ 05:04
29th September @ 08:12
7th October @ 09:04
14thOctober @ 20:03

Rearranged:
:
15th September @ 09:13
22nd September @ 05:04
7th October @ 09:04

14thOctober @ 20:03
29th September @ 08:12

From the spell a couple of weeks back that occurred with a time of
phase of 09:13:

Over the North Atlantic, there were two High Pressure Systems being
kept apart as if by magic. Ike was an elongation off Newfoundland
rocketing towards Greenland/Iceland.

Over Greenland the high pressure was some 1004/1009 mb; not greatly
dissimilar to Ike which was 989 mb at its core.

The Azores High and the Scandinavian High were elongating toward each
other, manfully separated by a low of 1021.

Ike intensified forming a marked dartboard going from 962mb to 1020 mb
in 30 degrees at 66 degrees N. with the centre about 30 degrees West.

It went through the Denmark Strait between Iceland and Greenland. A
pattern for all North Atlantic lows subsequently.

Two high pressure systems approached each other from Western Ireland
the other from Eastern Scotland and NE England and brought fine
weather to Britain.

The weather had been calm and overcast up until then. It became warm
and sunny with no hint of the clamminess that the spell aught to have
been sending. I would have said that a lunar phase at 9 o'clock was a
thundery spell.

I no longer see this is the case.

Ike has been stopped by that geological phenomenon: the Mid Atlantic
Ridge; that hold Lows as a "singularity" for a day or three and
something stopped it being joined by another low out of Northern
Canada then there were a line of lows all waiting patiently for
whatever it was that sent them up the Denmark Strait.

They were all about the same pressures and held off Scandinavia by the
High there; the isobars around the low system were quite dramatic.

Ike is now up at 70 N almost 90 W; up above Novaya Zemlya, Russia.

Meanwhile in the North Atlantic overall, both the Highs and the Lows
are high.

On Oct 8, 12:08*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

From the 09:13 spell of September 15th to the 22nd:

Tropical Storms in the Bay of Bengal are not exactly unheard of in
spells like this, however TD O2B is going nowhere and the remains of
Sinlaku was hanging on by its fingernails.

Meanwhile over in the Asian Pacific, Sinlaku intensified and was
joined by 18W

There were no powerful quakes, three over Magnitude 4 quakes leading
me to believe there was a likely major increase in the power or number
tropical storms.

Hagupit headed towards Hong Kong.becoming a typhoon that grew into a
Cat 3 -which should have changed the weather in the North Atlantic
radically.

The spell continued through the next week.

946 mb just south of the mouth of the Davis Strait. One for the record
books. Good job it's Siberia bound.

When that one gets up to around 70 N. 90 W; up above Novaya Zemlya
there will be a remarkable earthquake the
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_xnbs_l.html
I suppose a lot depends on how many other lows join it or separate out
from it.

11 reports of tornadoes in Florida and Alabama for the 8th. And while
there an whole slew of earthquakes apparent, I can't get a glimpse of
a pattern yet.

(Not counting the Fox Islands ones of course. (Too obvious that.))

On Oct 9, 2:12*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:

11 reports of tornadoes in Florida and Alabama for the 8th. And while
there an whole slew of earthquakes apparent, I can't get a glimpse of
a pattern yet.

(Not counting the Fox Islands ones of course. (Too obvious that.))

Looking at the predisposition of earthquakes to second guess what I am
going to say, the day before I even consider saying it:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...us2008xxa7.php
One might expect there to be more than one link to storms and
seismicity.

Which ties in nicely to a think I though some days back.
I was wondering; with the plethora of highs and lows surrounding the
whole of coastal North America, how would you work out which one was
causing which quake?

And the answer is that the answer doesn't matter. You only need to be
aware of one immutable constant. The rest will either follow or not as
their individual cases might be.

At the moment though, I am still stuck in a chicken or egg situation.
Perhaps that makes the question important. I rather think that that
quake occurred with the storm there rather than after.

Which begs another question, why does California get earthquakes all
the time and Britain get storms in like measure?

The more questions you answer the more questions you can think up.
It's base over apex, like pyramid sales. There is no way to win.

946 mb just south of the mouth of the Davis Strait. One for the record
books. Good job it's Siberia bound.

When that one gets up to around 70 N. 90 W; up above Novaya Zemlya
there will be a remarkable earthquake there.
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_xnbs_l.html
I suppose a lot depends on how many other lows join it or separate out
from it.

It appears the centre of attention will be towards the North American
side of the Arctic. I don't know nearly enough to make any specific
guesses but there has been more activity on that side reported than on
the Russian side.

There again of course, I don't even know of a site that reports low
magnitude earthquakes outside of the USA. Bit od a ****oire that.

11 reports of tornadoes in Florida and Alabama for the 8th. And while
there were an whole slew of earthquakes, I can't get a glimpse of a
pattern yet. Not counting the Fox Islands ones of coures (Too obvious
that.)
*******

Looking at the predisposition of earthquakes to second guess what I am
going to say, the day before I even consider saying it:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/...us2008xxa7.php
One might expect there to be more than one link to storms and
seismicity.

Which ties in nicely to a think I though some days back.
I was wondering; with the plethora of highs and lows surrounding the
whole of coastal North America, how would you work out which one was
causing which quake?

And the answer is that the answer doesn't matter. You only need to be
aware of one immutable constant. The rest will either follow or not as
their individual cases might be.

At the moment though, I am still stuck in a chicken or egg situation.
Perhaps that makes the question important. I rather think that that
quake occurred with the storm there rather than after.

Which begs another question, why does California get earthquakes all
the time and Britain get storms in like measure?

The more questions you answer the more questions you can think up.
It's base over apex, like pyramid sales. There is no way to win.
*******

The lows that went up the Davis Strait last time, went up after
gaining about 3 or 4 millibars every 6 hours or so. They were not
sprinters. And the difference in the spell so far is that the North
Atlantic generally had pressure systems that were very similar except
for that low pressure area and the adjaent pair of almost joined,
almost parallel high system.

There is generally an high system over Russia and northern Europe. The
high stretches from Southern Britain and Northern France to the Urals.
There are as with the spell above, two centres, one over France arounf
Le Havre on the Channel coast and one over Russia near Moscow.

Quite similar in many ways. Oddly though it is much more like the
following spell. The one for September the 22nd to the 29th.

We'll just have to see how this one fills out.
*******

960 mb now and rising. Time for a rethink about how these things
behave. It is something to do with the acoustics and the depths of the
relatively shallow waters. Without looking at just how deep the deeps
are on theese courses. And the relationship with depth to storm
pressures.

Or maybe the frequencies likely to be obtained before reverberation
impacts the waves of whatever it is involved.

960 mb now and rising. Time for a rethink about how these things
behave. It is something to do with the acoustics and the depths of the
relatively shallow waters. Without looking at just how deep the deeps
are on these courses. And the relationship with depth to storm
pressures.

Or maybe the frequencies likely to be obtained before reverberation
impacts the waves of whatever it is involved.

Looking at the sea floor of the Atlantic; it appears that there are
ridges and troughs in the floor that run parallel from the south coast
of Iceland in almost perfectly straight lines to the centre of
Newfoundland (south of the Strait of Belle Isle) and on past Nova
Scotia to Virginia and the Carolinas.

Well; not really.
The stretch doesn't seem to extend much past the bottom of Greenland.
But it is an interesting area:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...8968/img/1.jpg

Perhaps it may explain certain behavioural traits. If it extended as
far as the southern 'States, perhaps the weather we know and love
would be entirely changed and there be no chance of the Arctic ever
recooling?

Meanwhile it seems that pressures in that Low are approaching levels
that will allow it to move north.

Which of course further highlights the questions about which comes
first:
Movement or pressure change; Cause and effect.

OT for the most part
The financial crisis:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SIHw7C73s3E
.....is going to have an unfortunate impact on international services
that have served mankind faithfully for decades.

However...
It will be a terrible shame if the stuff available he
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/i...008psguide.pdf
....is curtailed in any way.

Knowing a little bit of human behaviour, I can only forecast that it
will -in the worst imaginable and most easily avoidable way and at the
most inopportune time possible.

Let's hear it for the Chimpanzee.

This all started with the deregulation of a B movie star whose legacy
was a film about a chimpanzee and massive deregulation in both the
petrol chemical industries (think Donald Rumsfeld and Aspartame) and
the economy.

How exquisitely whatzit!
The mills of god's bio-chemicals grind slow...
but they grind fine.

A gathering of Lows now fills the NE North Atlantic. The weather in
Britain is exactly as it was at the start of the spell I stated at the
outside, it would be so like. A dull overcast that requires one puts a
light on at mid day if one wishes to make a major repair to an engine,
or whatever, on one's kitchen table.

(As one does. Buggrit!)

I have just been looking at the chart for the day the British tourists
were killed in Spain in a rain-storm:
The Low was little less than 1016 mb at its lowest. Hardly any
different from an High.

Norbert is crossing the Mexican Baja peninsula. Something unknown
makes them turn about when they leave the tropics. Or does it?

If so, is it the same impetus that forces more northerly storms ashore
in the same direction? Or is it no force at all, just that the effort
they spend in going west ends when they stop building?

In which case, as they stop building they'd decrease in intensity
would they not?

On Oct 11, 1:55*pm, Weatherlawyer wrote:
A gathering of Lows now fills the NE North Atlantic. The weather in
Britain is exactly as it was at the start of the spell I stated at the
outside, it would be so like. A dull overcast that requires one puts a
light on at mid day if one wishes to make a major repair to an engine,
or whatever, on one's kitchen table.

Dull? Overcast?? Are you sure???

You do know what these little sun symbols on these tables mean, W,
don't you?

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/...ons/index.html